RALPH ABRAHAM
TERENCE McKENNA
RUPERT SHELDRAKE

TRIALOGUES AT THE

EDGE OF THE WEST

CHAOS, CREATIVITY, AND THE
RESACRALIZATION OF THE WORLD

FOREWORD BY

JEAN HOUSTON

CONTENTS

Illustrations......................................... xii

Acknowledgments....................................xiii

Foreword by Jean Houston.............................. xv

Preface................................................xxi

Chapter 1: Creativity and the Imagination................... 3

The new evolutionary cosmology. The regularities of nature as
evolving habits. The basis of cosmic creativity. The cosmic imagi-
nation as a higher-dimensional attractor drawing the evolutionary
process toward itself. The Omega Point. Imagination welling up
from the womb of chaos. Psychedelic experience and the mind
of Gaia. Gaian dreams and human history. Dark matter as the
cosmic unconscious.

Chapter 2: Creativity and Chaos............................23

The chaos revolution. Chaotic attractors as eternal mathematical
realities. Indeterminism in nature. Chaos and the evolution of order.
Form in the cooling process. The organizing fields of nature as
related to mathematics and the cosmic imagination. Mathematical
models. Attractors, attraction, and motivation. The freezing of
information in crystals and in written language. The primacy of
spoken language and abstraction.

Chapter 3: Chaos and the Imagination.......................43

Chaos in Greek mythology. The myth of the conquest of chaos.
Fear of chaos and the suppression of the feminine. The partnership
society and the rise of patriarchy. Seasonal "festivals of the repression
of chaos, and the creation of the unconscious. The inhibition of
creativity and its relation to global problems. The Eleusinian myste-
ries. Creativity and Christology. Plans for the recovery of chaos
and the imagination. The significance of the chaos revolution.

Chapter 4: The World Soul and the Mushroom.............. 61

Randomness in the evolutionary process. The limited nature
of models. The computer and chaos revolutions. Co-evolution
of mathematics and the material world. The mathematical land-
scape. Sensory qualities in the cosmic imagination. The similarities
of souls and fields. The primal unified field and the fields of
nature. Rebirth of the world soul. Interplanetary transfer of the
human psyche via the psychedelic experience and the spores of
magic mushrooms.

Chapter 5: Light and Vision............................ 75

Physical light and the light of consciousness. Light and vision. The
location of visual images. Mind extending from the eyes. The sense
of being stared at: a new kind of field or the electromagnetic field?
Hierarchy of fields in nature. Coupling between electromagnetic and
mental fields. Physical light and self-luminous visions. Tryptamine
hallucinogens. The world soul. Fields as the medium of divine
omniscience. Gaian mind and the light of the sun.

Chapter 6: Entities................................... 93

Discarnate intelligences and nonhuman entities: creatures within
the human mind or truly Other? Entities and shamans. The use of
language by entities. Angelic communication in the birth of modern
science. The dream dimension and entities. The effect of science
and humanism on entities. Nature magically self-reflecting
and aware.

Chapter 7: The Unconscious............................109

The three great bifurcations. Creation of the unconscious, the origin
of evil, and the rejection of chaos. Escape from evil by the resurrec-
tion of chaos. The suppression of psychedelics, the patriarchy, and
the rise of booze. Partnership and dominator drugs; the addiction to
addictions. Habits and the formation of the unconscious. Holidays
and the reinforcement of awareness. Prayer, magic, and astrology
for enlightenment.

Chapter 8: The Resacralization of the World..................121

Ralph's religious background. The sacred in India. Rediscovering
the sacred in the West. The revival of ritual and the resacralization
of music. Feminism and the archaic revival. Gothic cathedrals and
animistic Christianity. The green movement, saving the Earth, the
greening of God. Psychedelic churches. The resacralizing of science.

Chapter 9: Education in the New World Order.................137

Education as initiation. The dominance of rationalism and human-
ism. Rites of passage. Summer camps. Testing and accreditation.
Institutions and administrations. Workshops as a model for a new
pluralistic and decentralized system of education. Religious initia-
tions. Reform of existing professions. A possible pilot project.

Chapter 10: The Apocalypse............................149

The apocalyptic tradition: a mythic model motivating religious
history or an intuition of the ending of history or time? Modern
millenarianism and scientific versions of the apocalypse. The
possible end in 2012. The self-fulfilling quality of apocalyptic
prophecy. The speeding up of history and the inevitability of
planetary metamorphosis. Death and transformation on a
cosmic scale. Intensifying conflict and the power of faith.

Glossary .........................................163

Bibliography....................................... 171

About the Authors..................................... 174

ILLUSTRATIONS

Figure 1. A Chreode..................................    13

Figure 2. Three Levels of History.........................    19

Figure 3. Three Levels of Reality............................    24

Figure 4. Our Trinity..................................    45

Figure 5. The Time Wave..............................    62

Figure 6. Stropharia Cubensis...........................    72

Figure 7. Nested Hierarchy.............................    88

Figure 8. Eye of Horus................................    89

Figure 9. A Crop Circle................................  102

Figure 10. The Three Great Bifurcations of Cultural History.....  110

Figure 11. A Mushroom Artifact............................  114

Figure 12. A Green Man...............................  124

ACKNOWLEDGMENTS

We are grateful to Esalen Institute, especially Nancy Kaye Lunney and
Steve Donovan, for the hospitality and encouragement that made this pro-
ject possible and to Paul Herbert and Marty Schrank for their excellent
recordings. We are also deeply indebted to Jill Puree for leading the chants
with which we began each trialogue. Finally, we would like to acknowledge
the extraordinary support of the Bear & Company staff, in particular, Bar-
bara Hand Clow for her excellent editorial suggestions; Ralph Melcher for
his sensitive editing and supportive enthusiasm; Gail Vivino for her fine
tuning and careful copyediting; Barbara Doern Drew for her creative ap-
proach to production; and Chris Kain for her aesthetic and appropriate
book design.             

FOREWORD

When I was quite a young child, my father, a comedy writer, invited me
to go with him to deliver a script to the ventriloquist Edgar Bergen, whose
weekly radio show he was writing at that time. Bergen's chief dummy, Char-
lie McCarthy, was one of the best-loved characters in radio comedy and was
featured in many movies as well. He was also my very dear friend, and
when he was sitting on Bergen's knee, we would have many sprightly and
madcap conversations.

When Dad and I entered the open door of Bergen's hotel room, we
found him sitting on a bed with his back to us, talking very intently to Char-
lie and then listening with evident wonder and astonishment to Charlie's an-
swers. Unlike in the radio programs, there was no flippancy here, no "in-
on-the-joke" sarcasm. Indeed, one got the impression that Bergen was the
student, while Charlie was quite clearly the teacher.

"What are they doing?" I silently mouthed at my father. "Just rehears-
ing," he mouthed back. But as we listened to what Bergen and Charlie were
saying, we soon realized that this was no rehearsal for any radio program
we ever knew about, for Bergen was asking his dummy ultimate questions
like "What is the meaning of life? What is the nature of love? Is there any truth
to be found?" And Charlie was answering with the wisdom of millennia.
It was as if all the great thinkers of all times and places were compressed in-
side his little wooden head and were pouring out their distilled knowings
through his little clacking jaws.

Bergen would get so excited by these remarkable answers that he would
ask still more ultimate questions: "But, Charlie can the mind be separate
from the brain? Who created the universe, and how? Can we really ever know
anything?" Charlie would continue to answer in his luminous way, pour-
ing out pungent, beautifully crafted statements of deep wisdom. This rascally
faced little dummy dressed in a tuxedo was expounding the kind of know-
ing that could have come only from a lifetime of intensive study, observa-
tion, and interaction with equally high beings. After several minutes of
listening spellbound to this wooden Socrates, my father remembered his
theological position as an agnostic Baptist and coughed. Bergen looked up.

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turned beet red, and stammered a greeting. "Hello, Jack. Hi, Jean. I see you
caught us."

"Yeah, Ed," my father said. "What in the world were you rehearsing? I
sure didn't write that stuff."

"No rehearsal, Jack. I was talking to Charlie. He's the wisest person I
know."

"But, Ed," my father expostulated, "that's your voice and your mind com-
ing out of that cockeyed block of wood."

"Yes, Jack, I suppose it is," Bergen answered quietly. But then he added
with great poignancy, "And yet when he answers me, I have no idea where
it's coming from or what he's going to say next. It is so much more than
I know."

Those words of Bergen changed my life. For I suddenly knew that we
contain "so much more" than we think we do. In fact, it would seem that
in our ordinary waking reality we live on the shelf in the attic of our selves,
leaving the other floors relatively uninhabited and the basement locked (ex-
cept when it occasionally explodes). I also knew that I had no other choice
but to pursue a path and a career that would discover ways to tap into the
"so much more" of deep knowledge that we all carry in the many levels of
reality and nested gnosis within ourselves.

In reading Trialogues at the Edge of the West I found myself once again
eavesdropping on an extended conversation of ultimate questions and far-
reaching answers. This time, however, the principals are no dummies, unless
one thinks of the very cosmos as their ventriloquist. Ralph Abraham, Ter-
ence McKenna, and Rupert Sheldrake are among the brightest and most
thoughtful men alive on the planet today. Still, the mystery of intelligence
ignited and the calling forth of incendiary visions remains. These thinkers
quicken in each other a remembrance of things future as well as things past.
They evoke from one another a new treasure trove of ideas that could keep
us all thinking for the next hundred years—so much so that I find myself
wondering, To whom and to what am I listening? What is this book? A con-
certo of cosmologists? An atelier of thought-dancers? A marching society
of the ancient Gnostic order of metaphysical inebriates? Or have the spirits
of Thomas Aquinas, Peter Abelard, and Saint Bonaventure come back to
run rampant through the polymorphous parade of intellectual possibilities
felt and known by each of these fellows?

Whatever else this is, Trialogues is surely a mine field of mind probes, a
singular sapient circle of gentlemen geniuses at their edgiest of edges. Their
metaphors alone would leave a Muse in a muddle.

Meeting yearly and, more recently, publicly with each other at Esalen,
they raise through their conversations the rheostat of consciousness of them-
selves and their listeners. They cut loose from whatever remains of ortho-
dox considerations and become minds at the end of their tethers, who
then re-tether each other to go farther out in their speculations. In so doing,
they have figured out how to achieve one of the best of all possible worlds:
the sharing of mental space and cosmic terrains over many years of deep
friendship and profound dialogue.

The questions they pose each other are of the sort that the Hound of
Heaven brings barking to our heels. Here is a sampling: Are the eternal laws
of nature still evolving? Is there a realm beyond space and time that grants
the patterns and the conditions for creativity, organization, and emergent
evolutionary process—or does the universe make itself up as it goes along?
Are the causes of things in the past or are they in the future? Is there some
hyperdimensional, transcendental Object luring us forward? Is history but
the shadow cast backward by eschatology? Are we humans the imaginers
or the imagined; or is history in some way a co-creation—an unsettled,
chronically evolving, funky partnership between ourselves and the hyper-
dimensional Pattern Maker? Are the visionary vegetables our potentiators
and our guides; and is entheobotany the key to it all? Is chaos merely chaotic,
or does it harbor the dynamics of all creativity? What is the connection be-
tween physical light and the light of consciousness? How do we breach our
fundamental boundaries so as to enter a new phase of the human adventure?

Let the reader be warned that this is a curiously initiatory kind of book,
one that serves to recreate the landscapes and inscapes of our culture, our
science, and ourselves. The participants in these trialogues have in their own
ways striven to green the current wasteland by the remarkable range of their
human experience as well as by their depth of thought. This they have done
by personally engaging in more levels of reality, investigating the range and
depths of the ecology of inner and outer space, and bringing back rich trav-
elers' tales of their discoveries.

This series of trialogues is a living testament to the fact that we are living
in times during which our very nature is in transition. The scope of change is

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calling forth patterns and potentials in the human brain/mind system that
as far as we know were never needed before. Things that were relegated to
the unconscious are moving into consciousness. Things that belonged in the
realm of extraordinary experiences as well as ideas of the nature and prac-
tice of reality are becoming ordinary. And many of the maps of the psyche
and its unfolding are undergoing awesome change. This is not to say that
there are not perennial things about the deep psyche that will always remain
generally true. But our ways and means of reaching them are through routings
never known before. The principals in Trialogues are leading the ways in ex-
ploring the new routings. They show us how discontinuities and multiple
associations of the old tribal societies have again become important. Chaos
theory becomes critical in understanding the way things work. We must
look for flow patterns rather than linear cause-and-effect explanations. Res-
onance—both morphic and interpersonal—has become far more important
than relevance. The world is now a field of colossal busybodyness with quan-
ta of energies effecting everything simultaneously. And with this resonance,
nothing is truly hidden anymore. This is why this is also a book of secrets
revealed—on every page; no, more, in every paragraph. Caveat emptor.

The rapidity with which ideas are here offered, plumbed, and then poten-
tiated—the speed and passion with which myths and symbols are presented
and then rewoven into new tapestries of the spirit—serves as witness to the
acceleration of the psyche in our times. The human psyche is one of the great
forces of reality as a whole. It is a thing that bridges what may appear to be
separate realities—that is, it is a great force of nature, it is a great force of
spirit, and it is greatest of all as the tension that unites the two. Now this
psyche may be moving toward phase-lock breakout—that is, the jump time
of the psyche—manifesting as many different singularities of itself as it moves
toward convergence and transition. This means it is moving at stupendous
speed past the limits most people have lived with for thousands of years in-
to an utterly different state of mind. The contents of the psyche are mani-
festing at faster and faster rates—a dreamlike reality in which it is difficult
to tell anymore what is news and what is drama—or, for that matter, what
is myth and what is matter.

We live in a surround of electronic stimulation that extends to all tribes,
nations, peoples, realities, and the Earth herself through every one of us. We
leave out nobody. Everybody has to participate eventually, however im-

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poverished and unseen they may be at the moment. We have been returned
electronically and in fractal waves of multicultural convergence to a tribal
world of instantaneous information and dialogue.

Trialogues at the Edge of the West is this worldwide phenomenon writ
small. Within it, as in the world we now live in, realities come as thick and
fast as frequencies. We are constantly sitting at the shore absorbing the fre-
quency waves of these realities, peoples, experiences, and energies all the
time. This absorption, I maintain, is changing all the patterns of the ways
in which we are composed and, by extension, the ways in which we now have
to orchestrate and conduct this new composition. We live in chaos, which
we may have created in order to hasten our own meeting with ourselves—
that is, to blow down the old structures that no longer sustain us. In our
lifetimes, the great sustaining cultures have moved from agri-culture to fac-
tory culture to technoculture to omniculture. And people like Abraham,
Sheldrake, and McKenna are emergent apologists for this omniculture. This
they can be because of their appreciation of myth.

All over the world myths have risen to conscious popularity because we
can no longer understand the dreamscapes of our everyday waking life. The
myth is something that never was but is always happening. It serves as a kind
of DNA of the human psyche, carrying within it the coded genetics for any
number of possible evolutionary and cultural paths we might yet follow. This
is quite possibly why these fellows couch their language in mythic cadence.
They know they are on to Some Thing and perhaps, even, to Some One, so
their mouths are metaphored and become full of the blood. The authors are
on the verge of telling the new and larger Story. You see and read at another
level. Trialogues becomes a text of "Ceremonies at the Edge of History," an
Eleusinian mystery play in which we are invited to join the three celebrants
to sing as Pindar did when he reflected on the ancient mysteries: "Blessed
are they who have seen these things. They know the end of life, and they
know the God-given beginnings."

Jean Houston
Pomona, New York
March 1992

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Jean Houston, Ph.D., is the author of a dozen books including The Hero
and the Goddess, The Search for the Beloved, and The Possible Human.
She is a philosopher, psychologist, cultural historian, and well-known sem-
inar leader and international consultant on human development. She is also
the director of the Foundation for Mind Research.

PREFACE

After living in Nainital in the Indian foothills of the Himalaya, at thirty-
six years old I returned to California. One day, as I was standing on a street
corner in front of the Santa Cruz post office in white robes waiting for a ride,
a car stopped and Doug Hanson, a friend whom I had not seen in a year, said,
"Get in, I have someone for you to meet." Having no other agenda, I got in.
He left me in front of a frame house on Carlton Street in downtown Berkeley.
I went up one flight of stairs to a little attic, where Terence McKenna was
stooped over a terrarium, studying a dead butterfly and living mushrooms.
We started talking, roving over a vast landscape everywhere familiar to us both,
and hours passed.

Over the course of the seventies we evolved a pattern of relating, including
a minimum of chitchat, dinners, and hours of dialogue followed by sleep. Our
talks on philosophy, mathematics, and science created a space between us
for mutual exploration and discovery, which diffused into my professional
work. A paper called "Vibrations and the Realization of Form," published
in 1975 by Erich Jantsch, came out of this space.

In September 1982, a routine visit to Terence was interrupted by a phone
call announcing the arrival of Rupert Sheldrake at the bus station. I had recent-
ly read his book A New Science of Life, which had caused a stir in England,
and found it extraordinarily compatible with my own thought. When we
picked up Rupert, he entered effortlessly into the mental space Terence and
I had created over a decade, as his presence stretched the space into an
equilateral triangle.

Through the eighties we explored and extended our trialogue, making
many thrilling discoveries as a bonded triad, self-conscious of our trinity,
synergy, and partnership. Occasionally, at various conference and performance
platforms, our activity emerged into public view. Eventually, with the encour-
agement of Nancy Kaye Lunney of Esalen Institute, the idea of turning the
trialogue into a public workshop emerged.

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My life has largely been ruled by the search for a certain iridescence, a
certain glint or scintilla of noetic light that finds its way into a painting, a
place, a book, or, in some few extraordinary cases, a person. Twenty years
have passed since Ralph Abraham was brought to meet me by a friend from
my high school days, who assured me that an extraordinary mingling of the
minds would occur. This, in fact, has proven to be the case. Our separate
journeys have taken us to many of the same places—to the Himalayas as well
as the frontiers of mathematics and hands-on pharmacology.

Regarding Rupert Sheldrake, my travels and adventures in the Amazon
had made me ever keen to explore the issues of theoretical biology. So nat-
urally I jumped at the chance to meet him at a moment when awareness of
the controversy surrounding his first book, A New Science of Life, was just
breaking over the American new-science crowd.

For many years I've held wise and private consul with these two friends:
Ralph, with steadfastness, humor, and insight; and Rupert, with qualities of
kindness and gentleness that are rare in a scientific revolutionary. Only just
before the conception of this book was it pointed out to me that a wider sharing
of these discussions, dealing as they do with some of the great unfolding issues
of all our lives, might offer valuable insight to others. Deep these trialogues
may be, but the spirit in which they have been offered is one of three grown
men deeply engaged in play. Our offer to the reader has been simply this: You
can come along, too.

In 1981, a year before meeting Ralph and Terence, my first book, A New
Science of Life, was published in Britain. This was my attempt, as a biologist,
to set out the hypothesis of morphic resonance, according to which there is
an inherent memory in nature. The book had stirred up a great deal of con-
troversy in Europe, especially when the international scientific joumal Nature
condemned it in an editorial entitled "A Book for Burning?" Having spent
ten years doing research in one of the citadels of scientific orthodoxy, the
biochemistry department at the University of Cambridge, I was well aware
that the idea of collective memory, transmitted a new kind of nonmaterial

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resonance, was not likely to win immediate acceptance. Having spent some
six years in India, where I worked in an international agricultural research
institute, I was also well aware that the mechanistic worldview of scientific
orthodoxy was only one way of looking at the world.

The book was published in the United States by Jeremy Tarcher in Los
Angeles, and this brought me to California in 1982, my first journey to that
frontier of the West; I had just turned forty. Early one morning Dan Drasin,
a friend in San Francisco, put me on a bus to Santa Rosa, telling me he'd
arranged a meeting there he felt sure I'd appreciate. I was to be met by
someone called Terence McKenna. Sure enough, a puckish figure in dark
glasses appeared at the bus stop in an aging Cadillac and took me off to his
family home in the depths of Sonoma County. There I met his friend Ralph
Abraham.

In England, especially at Cambridge, I enjoyed the discipline of mind
imposed by the critical method, the historical awareness, the quickness of
response, the active intelligence. In excess, however, it was oppressive. New
ideas were treated as guilty until proven innocent, and as soon as I or anyone
took off on a flight of speculation, the others opened fire. Shooting people
down is a favorite sport of academics, and Cambridge is a free-fire zone.

In California, I found a sense of freedom from the past and an invigor-
ating enthusiasm for the new, but much of it was shallow rooted and there
was little place for wit, until I met Ralph and Terence. We had all been to
India and had been much influenced by the unimaginable variety and com-
plexity of cultural forms, the human warmth, and the speculative anarchy.
We shared an interest in science and in the realms of consciousness beyond.

In the years since 1982 we've spent much time together trying out new
ideas, developing old ones, and enjoying each others'company. Our conver-
sations have a range and freedom I have rarely encountered elsewhere, and
they have been for me the source of many new insights, as well as of inspira-
tion and renewal. I hope that this book will encourage others to explore with
their friends some of the questions we discuss here and will serve as a reminder
of the importance of dialogue as a means of discovery.

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This book grew out of a series of discussions that had gone on for more
than eight years. In our first discussion in 1982, we were delighted to find
that our different areas of interest and styles of thinking were synergistic.
Since that time, we have been able to explore our current interests together
in ways that have been exciting and stimulating for ourselves and for others.
Our friendship has been a source of inspiration in our individual research
and writing.

From September 8 to 12,1989, we met at Esalen Institute, in Big Sur,
California, for four days of talk. The first two days consisted of a public
program of dialogues and trialogues; during the second two days, we met
privately. We met there again from September 3 to 6,1990. The edited tran-
scripts of our discussions at Esalen form the basis of this book.

We are entitling this book Trialogues at the Edge of the West both because
these trialogues took place at the geographical edge of the West and because,
in a metaphorical sense, they represent the thinking that is now possible at
the leading edge of our culture. Each of us is a pioneer in new areas of
thought: Ralph Abraham in the new theory of chaos; Terence McKenna in
the revaluation of psychedelic experience and shamanic traditions; and
Rupert Sheldrake in the new understanding of nature in terms of the evolu-
tion of habits. Where are these developments leading? What relationship do
they have to each other, to religion and visionary experience, to our
understanding of cosmic evolution, to the resacralization of the Earth, to
the current ecological and political crisis, and to the coming of a new millen-
nium? These are some of the questions we discuss in these trialogues.

In this book, we also explore the nature of the dialogue and trialogue
themselves. Ever since Plato, dialogues have been recognized as a uniquely
effective way of exploring the realm of thought: they are the basis of the
dialectical method. But insofar as the dialectic of two points of view can result
in a synthesis, it presupposes a third point of view that includes the two start-
ing positions. We have found that trialogues have a more harmonious
dynamic than dialogues with only two people, partly because the synthesis
implicit in a fruitful dialogue can be made explicit by the third person. There
is a current revival of interest in the dialogue form (perhaps the best-known
example being the series of discussions between Joseph Campbell and Bill
Moyers), and we hope that our book will help further the appreciation of
the dynamics of dialogues and trialogues.

This book begins with a series of three dialogues in which each of us
talks to each of the others and the third person comments toward the end
of the discussion. In these dialogues, and in the trialogue that follows
them, we are investigating the relationships among creativity, chaos, and
imagination, and the relationship of these three concepts to the soul of the
world. Rupert takes the point of view of evolutionary creativity, Ralph of
chaos, and Terence of imagination. These discussions are followed by six
further trialogues, led by each of us in turn.

We know of no comparable book. We hope that the excitement we have
experienced exploring ideas together will communicate itself to readers. We
believe that our experience of talking together and our personal affinity have
enabled us to range widely and have given a cohesion to our discussions.
This book should appeal to anyone interested in contemporary develop-
ments in scientific thought, the emergence of green consciousness, visionary
experience, a new relationship to nature, the revival of religion, and the future
of the West. We hope that this book will stimulate readers to continue these
discussions in their own minds and together with their friends.

What I suggest is the existence of a kind of memory inherent in
each organism in what I call its morphogenetic or morphic field. As
time goes on, each type of organism forms a specific kind of cumula-
tive collective memory. The regularities of nature are therefore
habitual Things are as they are because they were as they were.
The universe is an evolving system of habits.
—Rupert Sheldrake

For me, the key to unlocking what is going on with history, creativity,
and progressive processes of all sorts is to see the state of completion
at the end as a kind of higher-dimensional object that casts an
enormous and flickering shadow over the lower dimensions of
organization, of which this universe is one.
—Terence McKenna

There is another level. . . which I am calling Chaos, or the Gaian
unconscious. This contains not form but the source of form,
the energy of form, the form of form, the material that form is
made of.

—Ralph Abraham

Creativity and the
Imagination

RUPERT: There's a profound crisis in the scientific world at the
moment that is going to change science as we know it. Two of the West's
fundamental models of reality are in tremendous conflict. The existing
worldview of science is an unstable combination of two great tectonic
plates of theory that are crashing into each other. Where they meet,
there are major theoretical earthquakes and disruptions and volcanoes
of speculation.

One of these theories says that there's an unchanging permanence
underlying everything that we know, see, experience, and feel. In New-
tonian physics, that permanence is seen as twofold. First of all, there's the
permanence of the eternal mathematical laws of nature considered by
Newton and Descartes to be ideas in the mind of God—God being a
mathematician. The image of God as a kind of transcendent disembod-
ied mathematician containing the mathematical laws of nature as eter-
nal Ideas is a recurrently popular idea, at least among mathematicians.
The other sort of permanence is in the atoms of matter in motion. All
material objects are supposed to be permutations and combinations of
these unchanging atoms. The movement they take part in is also
permanent and constant.

These permanences are summed up in the principles of conservation
of matter and energy: The total amount of matter is always the same,
and so is the total amount of energy. Nothing really changes at the most
fundamental level. Nor do the laws of nature change. This model of the
eternal nature of nature has been the basis of physics and chemistry, and
to a large extent it is still the basis of physical and chemical thinking.

The other theoretical viewpoint is the evolutionary one, which comes
to us from the Judeo-Christian part of our cultural heritage. According to
the biblical account, there is a process in history of progressive development,
but this process is confined to the human realm. In the seventeenth
century, this religious faith was secularized in the notion of human prog-

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ress through science and technology, and by the end of the eighteenth
century the idea of human progress was a dominant idea in Europe.
In the nineteenth century, through the theory of biological evolution,
human evolutionary development came to be seen as part of the pro-
gressive evolution of all life.

Only in the 1960s did physicists finally abandon their eternal or static
cosmology and come to an evolutionary conception of the universe. With
the Big Bang theory, the universe became essentially evolutionary. This
very recent revolution in science totally changed our worldview because
the most fundamental thing in science is its cosmology, its basic model
of the cosmos.

However, if all of nature is evolving, then what about the eternal laws
of nature that scientists have taken for granted for so many centuries?
Where were they before the Big Bang? There was nowhere for them to be,
because there was no universe. If the laws of nature were all there before
the Big Bang, then they must be nonphysical, idealike entities dwelling in
some kind of permanent mathematical mind, be it the mind of God or
the Cosmic Mind or just the mind of a disembodied mathematician. This
assumption is something that physicists and most modern cosmologists
have not yet begun to question seriously. It's an idea that's hanging over a
theoretical abyss because there's no compelling reason to assume the laws
of nature are permanent in an evolving universe. If the universe is evolv-
ing, then the laws of nature may be evolving as well. In fart, the very idea
of the laws of nature may not be appropriate. It may be better to think
of the evolving habits of nature.

The Big Bang theory is like the ancient mythological idea of the
cosmos beginning through the cracking of a cosmic egg and continuing
through the growth of the organism that comes out of it. This embryo-
logical metaphor is a developmental model. It replaces the notion of an
eternal machine slowly running out of steam with the concept of a grow-,
ing, developing organism that differentiates within itself, creating new
forms and patterns. On Earth, this evolutionary process gives rise to all
forms of microbial, animal, and plant life, as well as to the many and
varied forms of human culture.

So how does this process happen? In my books A New Science of Life
and The Presence of the Past, I attempt to explain how the habits of nature

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can evolve. What I suggest is the existence of a kind of memory inherent
in each organism in what I call its morphogenetic or morphic field. As
time goes on, each type of organism forms a specific kind of cumulative
collective memory. The regularities of nature are therefore habitual.
Things are as they are because they were as they were. The universe is
an evolving system of habits.

For example, when a crystal crystallizes, the form it takes depends on
the way similar crystals were formed in the past. In the realm of animal
behavior, if rats are trained to do something in San Francisco, for ex-
ample, then rats of that breed all over the world should consequently be
able to do the same activity more easily through an invisible influence.
There's already evidence, summarized in my books, that these effects
actually occur. This hypothesis also suggests that in human learning we
all benefit from what other people have previously learned through a
kind of collective human memory. This is an idea very like that of Jung's
collective unconscious.

Obviously, this is only part of the story. If the universe is a system
of habits, then how do new patterns come into being in the first place?
What is the basis of creativity? Evolution, like our own lives, must involve
an interplay of habit and creativity. A theory of evolutionary habit
demands a theory of evolutionary creativity. What gives rise to new ideas,
to Beethoven's symphonies, to creative theories in science, to new works
of art, to new forms of culture, to new instincts in birds and animals, to
the evolving forms of plants and flowers and leaves, to new kinds of
crystals, and to all the evolving forms of galactic, stellar, and planetary
organization? What kind of creativity could underlie all these processes?

There seem to be two basic answers on the market. One is the
materialistic viewpoint, which says that the whole thing is due to blind
chance—that there are nothing but blind material processes going on,
and then, by chance, new things happen. This viewpoint basically says,
"There's no reason behind it. There's nothing intelligible about it.
Creativity just happens."

The other theory is derived from the tradition of Platonic theology.
It says that everything new that happens and every new form that appears
corresponds to an eternal archetype, an eternal Idea in the mind of God,
or an eternal formula in the mathematical mind of the cosmos.

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Evolutionary creativity, however, is creativity that keeps on happen-
ing. It goes on as the world goes on. It's not something that just happened
once in an act of creation at the beginning of the universe. Another
model for understanding creativity is provided by our own imaginations,
which are not full of fixed Platonic Ideas, but ideas that are ongoing and
changing with a creative richness that continually surprises us.

Could there be a kind of imagination working in nature that is
similar to our own imaginations? Could our own imaginations be just
one conscious aspect of an imagination working through the whole
natural world—perhaps unconsciously as it works underneath the
surface of our dreams, perhaps sometimes consciously? Could such an
ongoing imagination be the basis of evolutionary creativity in all of
nature, just as it is in the human realm?

These are questions I want to put to you, Terence, because you've
studied the realm of the imagination more than most of us.

TERENCE: Well, certainly I think that the relationship between creativity
and imagination is the place to focus if we want to understand the
emergence of form out of disorder. The whole notion of "eternal" laws
of nature comes under question in the face of the Big Bang. Where were
these laws before the Big Bang? One either has to hypothesize a kind of
Platonic superspace in which, for reasons unknowable, these laws were
present or say that somehow the laws of nature came into being complete
and entire at the moment of the Big Bang. It's very hard to see how com-
plex laws of nature such as gene segregation could exist in the situation
of high-temperature physics and nonmolecular systems that prevailed at
the beginning of the universe. In my thinking about how patterns came to
be in the universe, I've attempted to take all the orthodox positions and
stand them on their heads. I think it's a useful way to begin.

Is it credible that perhaps the universe is a kind of system in which
more advanced forms of order actually influence previous states of organ-
ization? This is what emerges in Ralph Abraham's work with chaotic
attractors. These attractors exert influence on less organized states and
pull them toward some kind of end state.

For me, the key to unlocking what is going on with history, creativity,
and progressive processes of all sorts is to see the state of completion at

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the end as a kind of higher-dimensional object that casts an enormous
and flickering shadow over the lower dimensions of organization, of
which this universe is one. For instance, in the human domain, history
is an endless round of anticipation: "The Golden Age is coming." "The
Messiah is immediately around the corner." "Great change is soon upon
us." All of these intimations of change suggest a transcendental object
that is the great attractor in many, many dimensions, throwing out im-
ages of itself that filter down through lower dimensional matrixes. These
shadow images are the basis of nature's appetite for greater expression of
form, the human soul's appetite for greater immersion in beauty, and
human history's appetite for greater expression of complexity.

When I think about the terms chaos, creativity, and imagination,
I see them as a three-stroke engine of some sort. Each impels and runs
the other and sets up a reinforcing cycle that stabilizes organisms and
conserves processes caught up in the phenomenon of being. This is a self-
synergizing engine whose power emerges out of chaos, moves through
creativity, travels into the imagination, returns back into chaos, then
extends out into creativity, and so on. It operates on many levels
simultaneously. The planet is undergoing a destiny.

The model we all take for granted—deep time, the time of
geology—was only discovered in the nineteenth century. It's cosmically
ennobling to think of the universe as a thing of great age, but I think it's
time to put in place, next to the notion of deep cosmic time, the notion of
chaotic sudden change, unexpected flux, sudden perturbation. As we've
pushed our understanding of the career of organic life back nearly three
billion years, the study of deep time has revealed tremendous punctuation
built into the universe. As an example, recall the asteroid impact that
happened sixty-five million years ago from which nothing on this
planet larger than a chicken walked away.

The message of deep time is: we may not have as much time as we
thought; the universe is dynamic, capable of turning sudden corners.
This situation demands a new attitudinal response in which imagination
is a kind of beacon—a scout sent ahead that precedes us into history.
Imagination is a kind of eschatological object shedding influence
throughout the temporal dimension and throughout the morpho-
genetic field.

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If the morphogenetic field is not subject to the inverse square laws
that indicate decreased influence over distance, then I can't see why it
couldn't be located at the conclusion of a cosmological process. One of
the things that's always puzzled me about the Big Bang is the notion of
singularity. This theory cannot predict behavior outside its domain, yet
everything that happens and all our other theories follow from it. The
immense improbability that modern science rests on, but cares not to
discuss, is the belief that the universe sprang from nothing in a single
moment. If you can believe that, then it's very hard to see what you
can't believe. Such intellectual contortions are commonplace in science
in order to save particular theories.

I propose a different idea that I think is eminently reasonable: As the
complexity of a system increases, so does the likelihood of its generating
a singularity or an unpredictable perturbation. I imagine the preexistent
state of the universe to have been extremely simple, perhaps an unflawed
nothingness. This is the least likely situation in which you'd expect a
singularity to emerge.

If we look at the other end of the historical continuum, at the world
we're living in, we see tremendously complicated, integrated, multilev-
eled, dynamic complexity. And with every passing moment, the world
becomes more complex. There are 106 elements. There are tremendous
gradients of energy ranging from what's going on inside pulsars and
quasars to what's going on inside viruses and cells. There are tremendous
organizational capacities at the atomic level, the level of molecular
polymerization, the level of membranes and gels, the level of cells and
organisms, the level of societies, and so forth.

Evolution, history, compression of time—all these things are indica-
tions of the increasing complexity of reality. Is it not reasonable to sus-
pect that a singularity must emerge near the end of the complexification
process, rather than at its beginning? When we reverse our preconcep-
tions about the flow of cause and effect, we get a great attractor that
pulls all organization and structure toward itself over several billion
years. As the object of its attraction grows closer to its proximity,
the two somehow interpenetrate, setting up standing wave patterns
of interference in which new properties become emergent, and the

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thing complexifies. To my mind, this is the Divine Imagination, as
Blake called it.

Rupert and I were chatting last night in our room about the
aboriginal nature of God, the idea that somehow time is the theater of
God's becoming. From the point of view of a higher-dimensional
manifold, God's existence is a kind of fait accompli. This is a paradox
but not necessarily a contradiction, because in these ontologically
primary realms we must avoid closure and hold on to the notion of a
coincidencia oppositorum, a union of opposites. A thing is both what it is
and what it is not, and yet it somehow escapes contradiction. That's how
the open system is maintained. That's how the miracle of life and mind
is possible.

I think of the Divine Imagination as the class of all things both
possible and beautiful in a kind of reverse Platonism. The attractor is at
the bottom of a very deep well into which all phenomena are cascading
and being brought into a kind of compressed state. This is happening
in the biological realm through the career of the evolution of life. It's
simultaneously happening in the world as we experience it within our
culture, in what we call history. History is the track in the snow left by
creativity wandering in the Divine Imagination. In the history depart-
ments of modern universities, it is taught that this track in the snow is
going nowhere. The technical term is trendlessly fluctuating. We're told
that history is a trendlessly fluctuating process: it goes here, it goes there.
We just wander around. It's called a random walk in information theory.

This is all very interesting, for we've begun to see, through the
marvel of the new mathematics, that random walks are not random at
all—that a sufficiently long random walk becomes a fractal structure
of extraordinary depth and beauty. Chaos is not something that degrades
information and is somehow the enemy of order, but rather it is some-
thing that is the birthplace of order.

RUPERT: Your description of the imagination emanating from the cosmic
attractor sounds to me like a combination of Plato, Thomas Taylor, and
Teilhard de Chardin. It resembles the Omega Point that, according to
Teilhard, is the attractor of the whole evolutionary process. Everything is

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being drawn toward this end point. This is like Aristotle's conception of
God as the prime mover of the revolving heavenly spheres. According to
him, the heavens were not being pushed by God, they were being pulled
by God. God is so attractive that the heavens keep on going round and
round, eternal rotation being the closest they can come to the divine state
of eternal bliss.

This idea of attraction has ancient roots, and Teilhard's is an evolu-
tionary version of it. I agree with him and with you, Terence, that we
need the notion of an attractor to understand the evolutionary process of
the cosmos. This is the subject of contemporary discussion in the context
of the Anthropic Cosmological Principle, the idea that the cosmos must
have been constituted so that it allowed the evolution of carbon-based
life on at least one planet and then allowed the evolution of human
intelligence so that it could give rise to human cosmologists. Other
people are a kind of by-product.

If there is an attractor in the evolutionary process, which I think
there must be, then the question is, How does it work in the process of
evolutionary creativity? It could be a kind of future Platonic mind, which
is what you, Terence, seem to suggest. This Cosmic Mind contains all
possible forms and archetypes that are way out there in the future, and it
somehow interacts with what's going on now.

The way I understand it, there is an ongoing system of habits in the
cosmos built up from the past. Habits have a certain density, and matter
is dense because it's so deeply habitual. There's a sense in which the sheer
materiality of the natural world, and its sheer resistance to the imagina-
tion, is due to the fact that everything is so deeply imbedded in habit.
Left to themselves, habits would just fossilize, and the whole world would
become intensely, repetitively habitual. But there are other processes
going on, such as cosmological expansion and the continued presence of
chaos within the universe. This means that habits are continually being
disrupted by accidents—for example, asteroids hitting the Earth. In
our own lives, habits are continually being disrupted by developmental
changes and unexpected accidents, creating vacuums in which new
conditions and new possibilities can happen.

As I understand you, you are saying that the needs, the problems,
the tensions, the ongoing crises of the present somehow interact with

the cosmic attractor at the end of time, and it's as if sparks pass between
them. Situations or problems attract to themselves aspects of the divine
mind that are appropriate to their present circumstances, creating a kind
of imaginative penumbra around what's actually happening. Similarly,
our own imaginations are stimulated by what we're interested in, and our
dreams reflect our preoccupations and interests and hidden motivations.
The evolutionary imagination works by a kind of spark between the
divine mind, or cosmic attractor, and present situations open to
creativity.

I'm suspicious of the idea that everything that can possibly happen
already exists somewhere. This concept denies creativity, reducing it to
the manifestation of a future potentiality or possibility that is at the same
time eternal. The final unified attractor and the primal unified state of
the Big Bang have a symmetrical relationship. They're both part of the
familiar model of history in which the end in some sense reflects the
beginning, or the end in some sense is the beginning of a higher turn
of the spiral.                                                     

I'm interested in the possibility that the imagination isn't all there, all
worked out in potential form in advance—the possibility that the world
truly is made up as it goes along. Henri Bergson, in his book Creative
Evolution, strongly emphasizes that evolution implies ongoing creativity
but that human beings will do anything we can to avoid this notion
because it's so extremely difficult to conceive of ongoing creativity. I agree
with him. We either have the tendency to reject the question by saying
ongoing creativity is entirely random so we can't think about it, or else
we substitute some sort of Platonic realm where everything is already
present as an archetype.

I'm trying to look at a third possibility in which the imagination,
instead of emerging from the light of the future or from a kind of Platonic
mind, may emerge from something more like the unconscious mind—
coming into the light from darkness. The formative process of the imag-
ination may not be like sparks leaping from the mind of God but like
new forms welling up from the womb of chaos.

TERENCE: It seems to me the problem revolves around the notion of
purpose. Specifically: Is there one? If there is one, what is it? Nineteenth-

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century science went to great lengths to eliminate purpose from all of its
model building in order to make, once and for all, a clean break from the
contaminating power of deism. For instance, in evolutionary theory the
great breakthrough in the nineteenth century was the notion of random
process. Not knowing that it was background cosmic radiation that drove
mutation, scientists played two random processes against each other:
what they called "sporting," or the production of variant types, and
selection based on fitness to the environment. When these two random
processes are run into each other, an exquisite order emerges—of
animals, plants, and ecosystems. Darwinists could say, "You see, we
have no need for God or purposes or divine plans. We show that out
of the chaos of the moment emerges order."

This tendency was so strong in nineteenth- and early twentieth-
century thought that evolutionary biology sought to entirely appropriate
the word evolution. It was not to be used in any other context. A biolo-
gist once said to me, "If it doesn't involve genes, it isn't evolution." You
couldn't talk about the evolution of the novel, the sonata, or socialism
unless it involved genes. Largely through the work of Erich Jantsch, in
his books Design for Evolution, Evolution and Consciousness (with
C.H. Waddington) and The Self-Organizing Universe, this kind of
narrow thinking was overthrown.

I don't believe that everything is finished in some deterministic sense
at the end of the cosmos. I do believe that there is some kind of intima-
tion of purpose that directs the evolution of processes through time
and keeps them from simply becoming random walks. If we believe that
all of the imagination is being made up in the present, we're back with
the trendlessly fluctuating theorists of history. If none of it exists in the
future, then there is no compass point by which to guide the process
forward.

C.H. Waddington's idea of the chreode, described in his book
The Strategy of the Genes, allows me to preserve your intuitive concept,
Rupert, that everything is being made up as it goes along, as well as my
own strong intuitive hit about the necessity for a vector point in the
future. This is done by saying that time is a topological manifold over
which events must flow subject to the constraints of the manifold. I call
the surface of this manifold novelty, and I believe that by examining time

from this point of view we can see when in history great outbreaks of
novelty occurred. What's important for this argument is that—without
knowing any of its content—we can place the novelty of novelties, the
novelty to the nth power of novelty, at the end of the historical process
and watch it operate as an attractor without having any information
concerning its particulars. This point of view comes very close to
Neoplatonism. We have to maintain the unknowability of God, hence
the ultimate unknowability of the imagination. Nevertheless, we have
to grant it as an attractor.

RUPERT: It's partly a question, as I see it, of what role one thinks the
attractor has. One could say, as I think Teilhard or Aristotle conceived
it, that the entire cosmic process is drawn toward states of higher unity.
These states are not just higher states in general but as many possible
states as can be, which explains why there are so many forms of life. The
question is, are the new forms arising in the attractor, or is the attractor
simply attracting what's already a diversity of forms through a process

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that lies between them, which would be the process of imagination?

TERENCE: As I see it, the attractor is exerting an influence and pulling
these things toward it, but not in a direct trajectory. They must follow
this topological manifold of time; they have to enter the labyrinth, the
interstices of becoming in order to reach the attractor. That's why history
is so perverse. Two steps forward, one step back, is still a prescription
for a kind of progress.

The Divine Imagination into which history takes us, and which our
tools and cultural adaptation clarify and define for us, is something we
have been moving toward rather like someone driving using only the
rear-view mirror. What is exactly dead ahead of us can hardly be seen.
Historical compression increases daily throughout global culture until
there is almost a sense of free fall into the deeper fields of the attractor.

RUPERT: I think we should ask Ralph.
TERENCE: Yes, let's get Ralph in here.

RALPH: I'm trying to see whether imagination and creation are the same
or different, and whether you're having a disagreement or are describing
the same thing in different ways.

The idea of the attractor is related to the problem of the source of
new forms. Rupert suggests that new forms come out of chaos, or from
the unconscious. There's still the geometric question, Where are they
coming from? Your disagreement, as I see it, is in the location of this
source of new forms. Are they projected from an attractor at the end of
time, or do they come out of the dynamics working within the field in
the evolution and habits of nature? In this geometric model of the world's
soul, your only difference, I think, is in perspective. Or perhaps in your
idea of time. Behind us is history and in front of us is possibility. In the
determination of the next moment, your conflict is just a difference of
metaphor, not of process. You seem to agree that the next moment is
created out of the present moment through a process involving creativity,
imagination, chaos, and a world of possibilities located somewhere.

TERENCE: It occurs to me that creativity might be a lower-dimensional
slice of the Divine Imagination, a process that seeks to approach this
thing that somehow has an all-at-once completedness about it. Does that

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fit with your notion of creativity as movement toward the realization of a
kind of ideal realm?

RUPERT: I think creativity seems to involve a process like the welling
up or boiling up of new forms in an incredible diversity. New forms are
conditioned by memories of what has gone before and by existing habits,
but they are new syntheses, new patterns. There could be a kind of uni-
fying process at work such that anything that emerges above the surface
of the unconscious or the darkness or the chaos has to take on a kind
of wholeness to come above that surface. It has to take on a unified
form. But it could be any unified form.

One model for this creative process is dreaming. Dreams involve the
appearance of stories and symbols and images that we don't create with
our conscious minds. In fact, we usually just forget this whole wonderful
display of psychic creativity that happens for each of us nightly. When we
remember our dreams, they're bizarre and unexpected. It seems almost
impossible to have an expected dream. This curious feature raises the
question of where dreams come from. The Jungians would say that they
come from structures and processes in the darkness of the collective
unconscious. They'd see them not as descending from some higher
world but as welling up.

The human imagination obviously works through dreams. It works
through language, through conversations, through fantasies, through
novels, through visions and inspirations, and it is also revealed through
psychedelics in a particularly extreme form. In what sense is this imagi-
nation that we know from our own experience related to the imaginative
creative principle of nature? Is there a kind of Gaian dreaming? For
example, is the Earth, Gaia, awake on the side of it that's in the sunlight?
As it rotates, is the side that's in the darkness dreaming? At night, are
plants, animals, and whole ecosystems in some sense in a dream state,
when dreams and spontaneous images of what might be possible come
to them? What form would a Gaian dream take? Or what form would a
Gaian psychedelic experience take?

TERENCE: I think a Gaian dream would be human history. Perhaps the
planet's been sleeping for fifty thousand years and is having a dyspeptic
dream that causes it to toss and turn. If it could only awaken from that

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dream, it would just shake its head and say, "My God, I don't know what
it was, but I hope it doesn't come back!" Human history has that quality.
James Joyce, in his book Ulysses, has Stephen Daedalus say, "History is
the nightmare from which I'm trying to awaken." The whole structure of
Joyce's novels involves the integration of historical data with daily news-
papers and that sort of thing to evoke the quality of a dream.

In mentioning psychedelics, Rupert, you said they revealed an
extreme and intense example of this upwelling creativity. I think what
they reveal is so intense and extreme an example that it argues strongly
that the imagination is not the human imagination at all. While we may
be able to analyze dreams and see the acting out of wish fulfillment or
repressed sexual drives or whatever, depending on our theory of dreams,
the psychedelic experience at its intense levels goes beyond the terms of
human motivation. It seems rather to enter an ontological reality of its
own, one that the human being is simply privileged to observe briefly. A
deep psychedelic experience says no more about a person's personality
than does the continent of Africa. They are, in fact, independent objects.

To my mind, the Divine Imagination is the source of all creativity in
our dreams, in our psychedelic experiences, in the jungles, in the currents
of the ocean, and in the organization of protozoan and microbial life.
Wherever there is large-scale integration rather than simply the laws of
physics, the creative principle may be beheld.

RUPERT: Do you think, then, that in psychedelic experiences you're
actually tapping into the diurnal cosmic imagination?

TERENCE: Absolutely. Psychedelic experiences and dreams are chemical
cousins; they are only different in degree. This is how I can see human
history as a Gaian dream, because I think every night when we descend
into dreams, we are potentially open to receiving Gaian corrective tuning
of our life state. The whole thing is an enzyme-driven process. We are like
an organ of Gaia that binds and releases energy. A liver cell doesn't need
to understand why it binds and releases enzymes. Similarly, as humans,
we bind and release energy for reasons perhaps never to be clear to us
but which place us firmly within the context of the Gaian mind.

We have been chosen, just as indole acetic acid has been chosen in
plant metabolism, to play certain roles. We have a role, but our role

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seems to be a major one. We are like a triggering system. Out of the
general background of evolutionary processes mediated first by incom-
ing radiation to the surface of the Earth and then by natural selection,
suddenly we arrive, with our epigenetic capability to write books, tell
stories, sing, carve, and paint. These are not genetic processes, these are
epigenetic processes. Writing, language, and art bind information and
express the Gaian mind very well.

I see each of us as a cell in communication with the Divine Imagina-
tion, which is sending images back into the past to try and direct us away
from areas of instability. The Gaian mind is a real mind; its messages are
real messages, and our task—through discipline, dreams, psychedelics,
attention to detail, whatever we have going—is to try and extract its
messages and eliminate our own interference so that we can see the face
of the Other and respond to what it wants.

This isn't for me a philosophical problem. It's a problem that relates
to the politics and action that we take as a collectivity and as individuals.

RUPERT: The idea that we tune in through our own imaginations to the
Gaian mind seems attractive, and I think it fits quite well with dreams,
psychedelic experience, imagination, and so on. The next question for me
is this: How is the Gaian imagination related to the imagination of the
solar system, and that of the solar system to the imagination of the
galaxy, and that of the galaxy to the imagination of the cosmos, and that
of the cosmos related to what we could call the imagination of the cosmic
attractor, or the Omega Point, or the Cosmic Christ?

TERENCE: I'm not sure I want to follow you into the Cosmic Christ. I
think there should always be some physical stuff to hang these things on.
The Gaian mind is not a problem—the Earth teems with life. A Jovian
mind is not a problem because the complex chemistry and metallic
behavior of gas and ice under pressure seem to place enough cards on the
table that mind could well emerge in that situation. Similarly, the oceans
of Europa might be a friendly environment for life and mind. There are a
number of places in the solar system where there's enough complex
chemistry that I can imagine that sustained, self-reflecting processes
might get going over billions of years.

However, to move from that level of mind to the hypothesis of a con-

meantime there is history, the time wave. There is a present moment
also, so there is a past and a future, and the window of the present is
moving along the time wave. Along the way, the future is being created
by the emergence of forms of increasing complexity (according to Rupert)
and increasing integrity (according to Terence).

There is another level below, at the bottom of the figure, which I am
calling chaos, or the Gaian unconscious. This contains not form but the
source of form, the energy of form, the form of form, the material that
form is made of. Some little tinkle comes along like a ringing bell, then
a form pops up and becomes part of the time wave.

There was also a question that arose briefly in the discussion, before
being rejected forever, on the role of mathematics and natural law. This
belongs to another level of reality, which I have drawn over ordinary
reality in figure 2.

I think there are at least three different levels: ordinary reality, an
undercurrent of chaos, and an overworld of law and order. This is not
everything, not yet the full vision that any one of us has had in our own
explorations of the larger space. These are simply some of the compo-
nents of a larger thing that is the world soul, the all and everything.

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tinuous hierarchy of minds, out to the level of the galactic mind, you have
to ask hard questions. How long does it take the galactic mind to think a
thought? Does it do it instantaneously via morphogenetic fields? If so,
then what are the transducing and signal-sorting filters through which
the thought travels? If through light, then to say that the galactic mind's
thoughts are "vaster than empires and more slow" is to suggest that they
are very high-speed phenomena indeed. Empires would come and go by
the hundreds before a galactic thought could reach from one side of itself
to the other.

RUPERT: We don't know enough to begin to answer these questions. I
think a factor that changes everything is the discovery of dark matter—
the fact that 90 to 99 percent of the matter in the universe is utterly
unknown to us. This recent discovery effectively tells us that the cosmos
has a kind of unconscious, a dark realm that conditions the formation
and shapes of the galaxies, their interactions, and everything that's going
on within them. Your search for the basis of the imagination in the
known phenomena of physics is certainly an important one, but physics
itself has revealed that there's so much more, and this dark matter could
be the basis of any number of processes unknown to us.

TERENCE: I assume that psychedelics somehow change our channel
from the evolutionarily important channel giving traffic, weather, and
stock market reports to the one playing the classical music of an alien
civilization. In other words, we tend to tune to the channel that has a big
payback in the immediate world. It seems obvious to me that there are
channels of the imagination that are not so tailored for human consump-
tion. I think you're correct, that memories and hence all objects of cogni-
tion are not in the wetware of the brain. They are somehow plucked out
of a superspace of some sort via very subtle quantum mechanical trans-
ductions that go on at the molecular level. The Divine Imagination is
the reality behind appearance. Appearance is simply the local slice of
the Divine Imagination.

RALPH: In figure 2, I'm presenting a personal map of the preceding
dialogue on creativity and imagination so that we can locate chaos on the
map. Let's assume there was a beginning and there- will be an end. In the

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There are some difficult questions. Do these other levels really have
a beginning and an end, as this discussion has assumed ordinary reality
does? Did natural law exist before the Big Bang, in which matter and
energy were created? I put dotted lines and question marks in figure 2
to suggest these questions, which can be addressed later.

There's a cosmic imagination, the imagination of the anima mundi,
the soul of the universe. Within this are the imaginations of galaxies,
solar systems, planets, ecosystems, societies, individual organisms,
organs, tissues, and so on.
—Rupert Sheldrake

The more complex a structure, the more difficult it is to embrace
with our minds. Words are frequently inadequate. Language has
evolved through the necessity of sharing our experiences on a level of
complexity that is more or less traditional and that is inadequate to
understand the whole world, or the world soul, or the biosphere
of planet Earth. Mathematics has only a little more magic than
ordinary language.
—Ralph Abraham

The modeling challenge for the future is human history. We will no
longer be playing little games to demonstrate something to a group
of students or colleagues, but we will actually be proposing models
and methods powerful enough to begin to model the real world.
—Terence McKenna

Creativity and Chaos

RALPH: My own role here as chaos advocate is to encourage the
fantasy that form arises from chaos. Chaos theory involves three levels, all
of which are aspects of the present rather than of the whole of history as
in figure 2.

In figure 3, the mathematical level is on top. This is the level or space
of models, things that we do in our minds that create metaphors, images
for other things. Ordinary reality is at the bottom level, and includes the
matter and energy world as well as the mental world. This level might
include our bodies and minds, the bodies and minds of microbes, and
the Gaian body and mind. These two levels have supported the history
of the sciences since Newton, or maybe even since Pythagoras, and may
correspond to the upper two levels of the tableau of the preceding
dialogue (figure 2).

Recently, a new level has appeared, interpolated between these
two levels. This is a very interesting half step, created by the computer
revolution and the development of computational mathematics around
1960. This interpolated level makes our discussion a little more confusing
because the word model now means either a mathematical model—for
example, an ordinary differential equation—or a computer program that
simulates the mathematical model. The computer model is more real
than the mathematical model but less real than ordinary reality.

In this modeling context, there are models for chaotic behavior
called chaotic attractors and models for radical transformations of behav-
ior called bifurcations. From chaotic attractors and their bifurcations,
which live on the math level, we gain experience and get a feeling as to
the appropriateness of a question that might live in the historical realm
(figure 2)—which is somehow more real than the metaphorical realm
(figure 3). Whether or not, in the Gaian mind, form can be pulled out
of chaos by the ringing of a bell or something, we can only speculate.

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However, there are experiments with mathematical models for chaos
that might be relevant to this question.

For example, a good laboratory for the study of chaotic dynamics
is the dripping faucet. The dripping faucet was discovered as an ideal
demonstrator for chaos theory because lectures are usually given in a
physics lecture hall and they always seem to have sinks and faucets in the
front. When you crack the tap a little bit, the water drips out very reg-
ularly. If you crack the tap a little more, the drips speed up, but they're
still regular. When you crack it a little more, they sound irregular, like
rain dripping off a roof. If you measure the time between drops, and
make a list of these numbers, you have the paradigmatic example of
a chaotic time series.

Somebody decided to study this dripping faucet seriously after seeing
it in physics lectures. This person, Rob Shaw, is now one of the leading
people in chaos theory. He did a very fine study by placing a microphone
in the sink where the drop would hit it, getting an electronic beep, putting
the time intervals into his computer, and analyzing the results. These
portions of his study all belonged to level one, the lowest layer of figure 3.
the physical world. Then he made a model for the dripping faucet on
level three. In this mathematical model, the water drop gets bigger and
bigger, and when its mass reaches a critical value the drop falls off the
faucet. From this model on level three, Shaw wrote a computer program
to simulate it, which was a model on level two. He ran the simulator and
produced data that was almost exactly like the experimental data from

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the actual faucet on level one. Opening the model's tap eventually changed
the simulated data from periodic to chaotic through a bifurcation.

This is an example of modeling in the three-level context. The point
of this kind of modeling is to gain understanding as part of a hermeneu-
tic circle. You look at the data, try to build a model, and you fail. You
then observe in a different way, which helps you to build a better model,
and, as the circle turns, the level of your understanding grows. This is
what Rob Shaw did with the dripping faucet. The different way of observ-
ing data that came to him from the model was a method now known
as chaoscopy. In this method, you take the sequence of numbers—
the time between drops—and visualize a vertical column of numbers.
Then you make a copy of this column of numbers over to the right. You
whack one number off the top of this second column and move the
entire column up one number. Now you have a column of pairs of numbers.
Then you plot these pairs in a plane figure as a series of points.

There's a film available from Aerial Press that shows a machine
actually doing this. From totally chaotic data viewed in this particular
way, through chaoscopy, you get a set of points in a plane. If the data
were really random, the dots would be all over the plane. Instead they
lie along a smooth curve! This indicates a chaotic attractor.

A hidden order in chaos is revealed by a new way of looking. From
the observation of the data in this way, the smoothness of the curve
suggests, to a chaos theorist, a model that you can actually take off the
shelf and apply to other data. There are models on level three that are
good for understanding certain behavior on level one. On level two, an
intermediary can either create the mathematical model on level three
from the real data of level one, or create simulated data from the
mathematical model to compare with the real data.

I have, I hope, arrived at an actual connection between chaos theory
and the discourse we're trying to carry on here to increase our under-
standing of our past, our future, and our possibility of even having
a future.

RUPERT: The problem I have with chaos theory is that I'm never quite
sure what it's saying. There seem to me to be two things that are of in-
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make. These theoreticians are finding fairly simple equations that will
generate complicated and seemingly chaotic structures. The other aspect
of interest is more general. Those who make mathematical models of
chaos have given scientists permission to recognize that in fact there's an
inherent indeterminacy throughout the physical world.

In the nineteenth century, it was generally believed there was no
indeterminacy at all. Everything was believed to be totally determined by
eternal laws of nature. Laplace thought that the whole future and past of
the universe could be calculated from its present state if there were a mind
powerful enough to do the calculations and make the observations. This
illusion of total predictability held science under its spell for generations.
Scientists were dazzled by its imaginary power. Of course, they couldn't
calculate everything and they still can't. Far from predicting the entire
future of everything, they still can't predict the weather very accurately a
few days from now. The ideal of total predictability in principle was no
more and no less than an act of faith.

With quantum mechanics, in 1927, came a recognition of genuine
indeterminism in nature. Since then, there's been a gradual recognition
that indeterminacy exists not only at the quantum level but at all levels of
natural organization. There's an inherent spontaneity and indeterminism
and probability in the weather, in the breaking of waves, in turbulent
flow, in nervous systems, in living organisms, in biochemical cycles, and
in a whole range of phenomena. Even the old-time favorite model for
total rational mathematical order, the orbits of the planets in the solar
system, turns out to be chaotic and unpredictable in terms of Newtonian
physics. This indeterminism is now being recognized at all levels
of nature.

It seems to me that this openness of nature, this indeterminism, this
spontaneity, this freedom, is something that corresponds to the principle
of chaos in its intuitive and mythological senses. Mathematicians have
used the word chaos in a variety of technical senses, and it's not entirely
clear to me how these technical models of chaotic systems correspond to
intuitive notions of chaos.

What I'd like to consider, through a familiar physical process such as
cooling, is the way in which form appears out of chaos. If you start with
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fly off the nuclei and you get a plasma, which is sort of a soup of atomic
nuclei and electrons, with its own distinctive properties. If you cool the
plasma to a certain temperature, atoms begin to form. Electrons start
circulating around nuclei, and you get a gas of atoms. But the tempera-
ture is still too high for any molecules to form. If you cool it down
further, you get molecules. If you cool the system down even further,
you get a stage at which more complex molecules come into being.
Still, they're gaseous. Cool it down further, and they turn into a liquid
that can form drops and flow around and have quite complex, ordered
arrays of molecules within it. Cool it further, and you get a crystal
that is a highly ordered, formal arrangement of atoms and molecules.
You get a progressive increase in complexity of form as you lower
the temperature.

In traditional kinetic theory, lowering temperature gives less random
kinetic motion of particles; there is less chaos and an increase in complex-
ity of form as the cooling process takes place. We all know about the
cooling of steam into water and the cooling of water into ice crystals,
as in snowflakes and frost. This formative process occurs as thermal
chaos is reduced. The opposite happens if you warm things up. So there
seems to be an inverse relationship between chaos and form.

In a sense, that's what's happened in the entire universe. We're told
that the universe started off exceedingly hot—billions of billions of
degrees centigrade. It was so hot that stable forms were not able to
emerge. By expanding, it cooled down. When it was cool enough, atoms
emerged, then stars and galaxies condensed, then solar systems and
planets. Planets are the cooled remnants of exploding stars. The elements
in us and in our planet are Stardust, formed from supernovas. The
evolutionary appearance of form comes about through cooling; form
emerges progressively from chaos.

How do these new forms come into being? This is the big problem
of evolutionary creativity. How did the first zinc atoms come into being?
The first methane molecules, the first salt crystals, the first living cells,
the first vertebrate? How did the first of anything come into being in this
evolving universe?

One way of looking at this problem is to see the expansion and
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flux of energy. The concept of energy, which is one of the great unifying
concepts of physics, was formulated in the nineteenth century. It's not
entirely clear what energy is. In some sense it is the principle of change.
The more energy there is, the more change that can be brought about. In
this sense, it is a causative principle that exists in a process. This process,
the energetic flux of the universe, underlies time, change, and becoming,
and it seems to possess inherent indeterminism. The energetic flow is
organized into forms by fields. Matter is now thought of as energy bound
within fields—the quantum matter fields and the fields of molecules
and so on.

I think there are many of these organizing fields that I call the
morphic fields, and that they exist at all levels of complexity. These fields
somehow organize the ongoing flux of energy that is always associated
with chaotic qualities. Even organized systems of a high level of com-
plexity, such as human brains, have this probabilistic quality. The fields
that organize this energy giving rise to material and physical forms are
themselves probabilistic. Chaos is never eliminated. There's always an
indeterminism or spontaneity at all levels of organization.

There are two principles: a formative principle, which is the fields,
and an energetic principle. Energy is the principle of change, and pure
change would be chaos. One way of thinking of these two principles is in
terms of the Indian Tantric notion of Shakti as energy and Shiva as the
formative principle working together to create the world we know.

If the formative principle operates through the fields of nature, then
how do these fields operate? How are these fields governed? How do
they have the forms, shapes, and properties they do?

I think the organizing fields of organisms are what I call morphic
fields, and that these fields contain an inherent memory. They are essen-
tially habitual, and nature is the theater in which these habitual fields
organize the indeterminate flux of energy. The fields themselves, by
having this energy within them, share this indeterminate quality also.

This brings us to the question of creativity. How do new fields and
new forms come into being in the first place? Where do they come from?
This morning, Terence and I were discussing how they may arise out
of the interaction of chaos and some kind of formative, unifying aspect
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by calling it the realm of mathematics. There's an interaction between
these two levels, which you've shown by the wiggly line in the middle
of your diagram, indicating the world of becoming.

This brings us back to the nature of what you call the mathemat-
ical realm and what I call the formative realm. Is there a kind of
mathematical realm for the universe, somehow beyond space and time
altogether, which conditions all forms of creativity and all patterns
and possible systems of organization that come into being in the world?
Or are these all made up as the evolutionary process goes along? These
are questions Terence and I touched on in our dialogue on creativity
and the imagination [chapter 1].

I think if we take the view that things come into being as evolution
goes along and that the cosmic soul has a kind of imagination, then
we can think of form as coming into being through the imagination as
nature goes along, and we can see this imagination as having many levels.
There's a cosmic imagination, the imagination of the anima mundi, the
soul of the universe. Within this are the imaginations of galaxies, solar
systems, planets, ecosystems, societies, individual organisms, organs,
tissues, and so on. There are many levels of organizing souls and imagi-
nations. We don't have to leap straight from the level of a molecule or a
plant cell to the level of Divine Imagination, or to the transcendent realm
of mathematics. There's a whole series of imaginations in between.

My view is that there isn't a kind of mathematical mind out there,
already fixed, already full. What people do is make mathematical models
of various aspects of nature and then project these models on nature,
creating the illusion that they're the real thing. The result is that the cos-
mic imagination seems to be engulfed within an eternal mathematical
mind, when it may be no more mathematical than human beings are
when we're dreaming. We do not experience our dreams as being
generated by equations, or as essentially mathematical in nature.

What I'm suggesting is that the cosmic imagination might include
within it a mathematical realm, and that this mathematical aspect
is evolving just as our own understanding of mathematics is evolving
in time.

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description as a strategy for making models. For example, I described a
geometric, visual model for the all-and-everything, including within it the
world soul and so on. If drawn as a geometric picture instead of a word
picture, that's officially mathematics—that's geometry. I think that with
mathematics we can make a model for anything. Mathematics can be
regarded as simply an extension of language. It's not a code of laws
describing the universe, although that is its usual paradigm.

Mathematics is a particularly good language for describing, discuss-
ing, and imagining things that are really complicated. The more complex
a structure, the more difficult it is to embrace with our minds. Words are
frequently inadequate. Language has evolved through the necessity of
sharing our experiences on a level of complexity that is more or less tra-
ditional and that is inadequate to understand the whole world, or the
world soul, or the biosphere of planet Earth. Mathematics has only a
little more magic than ordinary language.

Rupert had a complaint about chaos theory, about determinism and
prediction. According to chaos theory, prediction and determinism are
impossible! Even though it uses the language that deterministic thinkers
use, with respect to its technical details, there is only a sort of probabal-
istic prediction.

The models for the things you want to talk about, such as cooling,
don't come from chaos theory alone. They come from bifurcation theory,
which exemplifies the best of mathematics. Mathematics says that, based
on particular assumptions, certain things will not happen and only
certain other things will. You get a list of three or four of these so-called
bifurcations. With cooling, for example, you may have a control knob
with which you are turning down the heat under a pan. The boiling
gradually subsides to simmering, which subsides to a little bit of waving,
which subsides to nothing. At each stage, based on the mathematics,
there is a model that has attractors, maybe chaotic attractors. Every time
you change the knob, you get a different model. Therefore, if you can't
predict how the knob is going to change, the models won't give any
prediction at all. The only thing bifurcation theory can tell you is to
expect certain transformations.

For example, Terence has pointed to the punctual aspect of evolu-
tion—the fact that many transformations are saltatory, catastrophic,

abrupt. Bifurcation theory simply says that, in models of this type, most
of the transformations are abrupt. It says that determinism, even prob-
abilistic determinism, is impossible using these mathematical models.
There is an encyclopedia of bifurcations that are very good models for
transformations, for the emergence of form as in the Neolithic revolution
or the formation of the solar system.

Bifurcation theory can be used to model everything, so it never
settles the question of the origin of things or the true nature of ordinary
reality. Like language, it's good for communication; it's good for under-
standing, because modeling is part of our basic process of understanding.
Models are no good for prediction, but they're good for the growth
of understanding.

RUPERT: You put the whole case impressively and modestly in claiming
that mathematicians are just making models. Chaos theory provides a
new range of models. We can look forward to more models coming onto
the market in the future.

I suspect the traditional assumption is that successful models work
because there are mathematical aspects of nature to which they mys-
teriously relate. I often meet mathematicians or physicists who say
quantum physics is the most brilliant predictive system that mankind
has ever known, predicting things to many places of decimals. When I
was working in India as an agricultural scientist, there was no one who
could predict the outcome of my crop experiments. Crops growing in
fields were miles beyond the capabilities of any modeling process based
on the fundamental principles of physics. One could produce empirical,
string-and-sealing-wax models for crop production and run them on
computers, but none of them provided to me a convincing demonstration
that the whole thing depended on a hidden mathematical order.

Are the fields of nature more real than the mathematical models we
make of them, or is there a kind of mathematics yet more fundamental
than the fields? For example, take the polarities of the electromagnetic
field: north and south magnetic poles, and positive and negative electric
charges. Do these polarities exist because of some fundamental Two
Principle, an archetypal duality behind and beyond nature? Or is that just
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we make an abstraction that we can then model mathematically, but it
doesn't exist in some objective, transcendent realm.

RALPH: You could ask different mathematicians and get different an-
swers. I'll give you mine, and other mathematicians will say it doesn't
count because I'm not a mathematician, and my answer is the proof
of that.

For me, mathematics is a beautiful landscape, an alternate reality,
filled with possibilities not yet seen. There are some older and some
younger parts in the mathematical landscape, and this entire system is in
coevolution with ordinary reality as people enter and hang out there to
study and invest their creative energy. In this mathematical landscape,
there is only a small part that has been used for modeling anything in
ordinary reality.

From the viewpoint of a nonmathematician, the part of mathematics
that has been used for modeling something familiar, like the simmering
of hot water, is the only part visible. Nonmathematicians may exclaim
about the amazingly perfect fit between a mathematical concept evolved
solely in the human mind and a boiling pot of water. This part of
mathematics became visible primarily during the history of physics,
which is devoted to the study of the simplest possible systems.

When you talk about your experience as an agricultural scientist, you
are talking about a realm that is infinitely more complicated than the
most complex physical system. The parts of mathematics that have been
used by physicists are the parts that are the least interesting to mathema-
ticians. Mathematics offers much more to the complex sciences than
it offers to physics. The whole potential of mathematics to aid us in our
evolution comes from the fact that it can extend our understanding of
systems that are too complex to understand without it, as when a small
change in the weather causes some peas to grow at the expense of others.

In an ecosystem, there are so many different things. We can't be sure
that a single oil spill off a single coast could not produce desertification
or bring on the equivalent of nuclear winter. Our understanding can
be advanced by mathematics, because mathematics is an extension
of language for dealing with complex systems. We can have models of
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or the United Nations. We can model these things with models that are
not perfect, but they're better than no models. The construction of these
models is part of our evolution, and it's part of the evolution of the
mathematical landscape as well.

RUPERT: I must admit that my interest in mathematical models has
enormously increased since I came across attractors. No one in any other
branch of science has been able to think in terms of teleological principles
that pull from in front. You, Ralph, have done more than any mathema-
tician I know to make the essential features of this kind of mathematics
accessible. There's not a single equation in your four volumes on visual
dynamics. Through diagrams, you give the essence of what dynamic
systems are. Normally, mathematical ideas are hidden behind an
opaque cloud of symbols that most of us can't penetrate. It's as if our
only experience of music was looking at the scores of symphonies with-
out ever actually hearing the symphonies themselves. These symbols
refer to things that for real mathematicians are visual intuitions.

Attractors have really changed our way of thinking about nature
because they've made it possible to think about what Aristotle called the
entelechy, the end that attracted toward itself the process of change. What
I'd like to know is how you think attractors work. No matter how we try
to get out of it, they seem to imply a pulling from in front rather than a
pushing from behind, something that is more Aristotelian than mecha-
nistic. At the cosmological level, we arrive at what Terence and I were
discussing this morning—the idea of an attractor for the entire cosmic
evolutionary process.

RALPH: I have to admit that when I heard this from both of you my
jaw dropped. I was astonished at this interpretation, and I can't say it's
wrong, but I'm sure it's different from the way any mathematician has
thought about attractors in dynamical systems before.

Imagine a train going down a track, and it's going to get to the next
station in seven minutes. Is the station pulling the train? The dynamical
system is the track, the present moment is the train, and the attractor is
the station. This attractor might not be simply a point—it might be a
circular section of track, or it might be a tangled heap of track, a chaotic
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the word attractor. When we thought of this word in the early 1960s, we
never thought it would be interpreted in this way. Now I can see that it's
the obvious interpretation anyone would make when they read this word.

RUPERT: The same problem was confronted by Sir Isaac Newton, when
he chose the word attraction for gravitation. When Voltaire visited Lon-
don in 1730, more than forty years after Newton had published his ideas,
these ideas were still not accepted in France for the principal reason that
Newton had used the word attraction, with its connotations of sexual
attraction and its animistic and subjective associations. The idea that the
Earth could be attracting a stone like an attractive woman attracts a man
seemed ridiculous. Voltaire said that if Newton had chosen a different
word his theories would have been adopted thirty years earlier.

The truth is that mechanistic cosmology replaced animistic cos-
mology through introducing animistic principles such as gravitational
"attraction" by subterfuge, pretending that they were mechanical princi-
ples. In Aristotle's view of the world, stones fell because they were at-
tracted to the Earth; they were attracted to their proper place; they were
going home. Newtonian physics said that it was completely wrong to
think of nature working on the basis of such attractions. Instead, stones
fell because of "gravitational attraction"! Isn't attraction a strange concept
to use if one is trying to deny attraction? The Newtonian tried to forget
about animistic associations and pretended that this was just a neutral
technical term.

In the evolution of science since the mechanistic revolution, attrac-
tion has been reinvented again and again. I suspect that the same is true,
Ralph, of your dynamical attractor. Choosing the words attraction or
attractor gives the idea an inherent appeal and plausibility.

I think that even if you take your example of the train, the station
may not be pulling the train but there's a sense in which the station really
is an attractor. I get on a train that's going to London because it's my
purpose to go to London. In a sense, what's motivating the train is the
purpose of the people getting to London or New York or Los Angeles.
Unless human beings are purposive and have destinations they want to
get to, and unless railway companies have schedules and plan the way
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won't run. The train can be modeled as if it's just a dynamical system
running along rails that happen to end up in London. If you observe
enough trains on the London railway line, you see lots of them going to
London, so you put London in the model as an attractor, but at the same
time you say the destination has nothing to do with attraction. This is,
in my opinion, a subterfuge, because it has a great deal to do with
attraction. If there are railway lines running nowhere in particular,
very few people travel on them, and after a while . . .

RALPH: They have no stations.

RUPERT: Railway companies close them down because they say there's
no demand. In this example, and even in your own, Ralph, there is an
implication of attractors really attracting.

RALPH: It's a good analogy with Newton's gravitational attraction. With
his theory, and equally with general relativity, there are some unresolved
difficult problems about action at a distance in space. I think we have
the same thing here, but it's a question of action at a distance in time.
Two different kinds of time have been confused here.

The train goes down the track and arrives at the station, the attractor,
but the problem with thinking of the station pulling the train is that the
cause is then in the future. Your argument that the station pulls the train
because the people want to go there applies to a different kind of time—
time on the longer scale of the evolution of the whole train system.
People used to get on and off trains where there were no stations; they
just asked the conductors to stop the trains. After many people asked
for a certain stop, the railway built a train station there.

The interesting model here is the dynamical model for the evolution
of the train system itself, with its various tracks and stations and even
with the location of towns and so on. All of this evolves slowly in the
course of another kind of time, measured in centuries. This slow evolu-
tionary train also goes toward an attractor, which includes the location of
cities, the network of train tracks and stations, and so on. Is this slow
train being pulled by the attractor? I think not, because people are exert-
ing their will by getting on and off the fast train wherever they want,
and that's the motor of the slow train. The determinant of evolution is

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free will in the moment, the collective action of citizens in the present.

RUPERT: We face this problem in human psychology. You see, motiva-
tions in the ordinary psychological sense are not pushing from behind but
pulling from ahead. In courts of law seeking to establish the cause of
what happened in a crime, motivation is very important. Did so-and-so
willfully murder so-and-so? What was their motive? There's a sense in
which a future state or an imagined future state is pulling them. We all
have desires and goals that motivate us; we have purposes and aims.
All of us at this workshop had the intention of getting to Esalen this
weekend, and the intention preceded our coming here. The goal of being
here drew our behavior toward it. That goal was in the future.

The concept of morphic attractors in morphic resonance theory,
like the concept of entelechy in Aristotle's notion of the soul, tries to deal
with the fact that somehow the system, the person, the developing
animal, the developing plant, or whatever is subject in the present to
the influence of a potential future state that hasn't yet come into being.
That potential future state is what directs and guides and attracts the
development of the system in the present.

Is that future state existing in the present in some other dimension or
direction or time, or is it actually out there in the future pulling from
tomorrow or the day after tomorrow through time? There are different
ways to imagine how it works.

RALPH: We've arrived again at the imagination.
RUPERT: Exactly. Over to Terence.

TERENCE: I have a lot to say about this discussion, and I'll work
backward through it.

Alfred North Whitehead had a phrase, "appetition for completion,"
which I take to be what this attracting notion is seeking—completion,
that is. If we didn't use the word attractor and tried to be true to the
notion that the process was being pushed from behind, we would have
to use a word like propeller or motivator. These seem to me, intuitively,
to be inelegant terms. They immediately raise questions of operational
detail that attractor doesn't. We know when things are attracted to some-
thing; they simply move toward it. If something is "propelled" toward

something or "motivated" toward something, we have to visualize it
strapped to an engine that is moving it toward an end state, which,
somehow it is able to magically locate.

If you view the attractor as the bottom of an energy well, then any-
thing put into the energy well will make its way to the attractor because
the attractor is the least energetic state. The whole system naturally
tends to move in that direction. The idea that the cause is in the future
makes hash of the conventional notion of causality, so it's something
that science is very keen to discredit. The backwash from the acceptance
of this idea would make the practice of science much more difficult.

For many years, Ralph and his colleagues have been modeling plant
growth, dripping faucets, coupled oscillators like groups of cuckoo clocks
hung on the wall, and this sort of thing. The modeling challenge for the
future is human history. We will no longer be playing little games to
demonstrate something to a group of students or colleagues, but we will
actually be proposing models and methods powerful enough to begin to
model the real world. These models will deal not only with the real
world of biology, but with the real world of the felt experience of being
embedded in human institutions.

I think the whole reason history has been bogged down during the
twentieth century is because of an absence of belief in an attractor. The
legacy of existentialism and the philosophies constellated around it is the
belief that there is no attractor, no appetition for completion. Everything
is referent to the past up through the present and goes no further.

My tendency is to carry any principle to its ultimate extrapolation.
In thinking about complexity in relation to falling temperature I glimpsed
something I had previously overlooked.

If, in fact, the increase in complexity in life is directly related to fall-
ing temperatures in the universe, then it seems reasonable to suppose that
the most complex states in future cosmic history will occur at very low
temperatures. It's interesting that a phenomenon like superconductivity,
which is fascinating to solid state engineers as a way to preserve infor-
mation from decay, occurs at low temperatures. If you put information
into a superconducting circuit operating at around absolute zero, it's
impossible to disrupt that circuit without destroying it. As early as the
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seeks to stabilize itself against mutation, the obvious principle to aid in
that task would be something very much like superconductivity.

In fact, the way in which charge transfer and things like that occur
in DNA suggests that nature may have incorporated this principle into its
mechanics. What this tells us in the present is that our current cultural
phase transition vis-a-vis machines may signify that we are not, as I've
always thought, very close to the maximized state of novelty. Rather we
may be somewhere out in the middle of the topological manifold I call
the "novelty wave," which goes from the beginning to the end of all
things. The cultural transition that we are experiencing is a downloading
of all novelty so far achieved into a much colder and stabler regime of
silicon crystals and arsenic-doped chips and this sort of thing. This
is a fairly appalling idea, because we all have a horror of being replaced
by machines. On the other hand, procaryotes were replaced by euca-
ryotes, and there have been several other replacement scenarios in the
history of life.

This point about cooling and complexity seems to imply, in my
own theory of the "time wave," that the zero point attractor at the end
of time may in fact be the absolute zero point, and that what the time
wave or the fractal time manifold really describes is the fluctuation of the
career of heat throughout the life of the universe. In domains of high
heat, information is degraded and novelty is lost, and there is a kind of
recidivist tendency. When temperatures fall, order reasserts itself and
things stabilize.

In the wake of each ice age, human populations emerged with better
tools, better languages, and better techniques than before. It was as if
the increased environmental pressure, and perhaps even the increased
need to spend more time together, synergized the emergence of higher
states of order.

We associate lower temperatures with death. We all understand that
if temperatures drop below a certain very narrow range, that's it for us.
The machines we are creating, however, are operating more and more
efficiently as temperature is dropped. In the realm of absolute zero,
almost miraculous things can be imagined in the way of technical
storage and retrieval of information.

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RALPH: Terence, what is the optimal environment for biological
information storage?

TERENCE: A very cold regime is optimal for mushroom spores. The
actual expression of the spores' genomes through the growing of fungi
has to occur in a normal biological regime, but spores stored in liquid
nitrogen can be stored indefinitely. In fart, most tissue can be stored
indefinitely at these low temperatures. It's not very interesting to be
at 70° Kelvin, but it is the path toward a kind of immortality because
that's where preservation takes place.

RUPERT: The idea of information storage at low temperatures is inter-
esting when we consider the difference between spoken and written
language. The first written languages we know about were written on
rocks, the ultimate, low-temperature, crystalline storage system. For ex-
ample, the Ten Commandments given to Moses were on tablets of stone.
Writing on rock is a kind of permanent storage system. Putting things in
silicon crystals is more sophisticated but is still essentially a low-temper-
ature storage method. You can't write on water or on the wind.

Written language creates the illusion for us of an independent world.
The notion of a transcendent eternal world of Forms couldn't have arisen
until written language did, because written language provides the model
for it. By what I think of as a kind of idolatry, human-made symbols and
structures, when written down, are imagined to endure forever in some
other realm. Spoken language is far older than written language, but is a
process that happens in time. The memory involved in oral cultures is
carried in stories that are continually retold and that evolve as they are
transmitted. The spoken record, the story, develops organically as time
goes on, and there's nobody around to say, "Well, you've got the story
wrong; in the book it's written like this."

Spoken and written language provide us with different models of
reality. Oral tradition has an evolving and yet conservative quality, and
suggests a model of reality rooted in habit and tradition yet open to the
creative imagination. The model of written language projects the idea
of things being fixed by being written down and gives the impression
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RALPH: I imagine, just to be contrary, that mathematics probably pre-
ceded not only writing but language as well. Certainly mathematics
preceded writing. In mathematics there are, for example, the circle and
the line, which were, for Plato, ideal, eternal Forms. Do we need writing
on stone to think of a line or a circle or a triangle as being an eternal
Form? The evolution of this kind of mathematics was probably achieved
by people drawing in sand. Writing evolved from this drawing in sand,
and only later did we begin drawing on stone. It's possible that the idea
of eternal Forms, laws, and so on emerged before writing on stone,
and that writing on stone was just a concretization of those ideas. This
suggests a migration in evolution from the immaterial to the material,
from the abstract to the concrete, which is opposite to what a lot of
people think.

TERENCE: To summarize this dialogue, the concept of the attractor was
introduced and explored in detail, probably to the clarification of at least
two of the participants, Rupert and myself. The role of the attractor
seems central to understanding what chaos dynamics is offering that is
new. Rupert dwelt on the very useful analogy of the way in which order
is attained through phase transition. He chose the model of cooling, both
in the specific case of the cooling of a liquid and in the case of the whole
cosmos as a slowly cooling solution going through phase transitions
from lower to higher states of order as the temperature falls.

Ralph then raised the stakes in an attempt to communicate the com-
plexity of what chaos dynamics is saying. He went beyond the notion
of the attractor and the basin of attraction and introduced the idea of
bifurcation, which is a further development in the metaphor. The fruit-
fulness of, aesthetics of, and constraints on the process of modeling were
discussed, as was the way in which modeling allows us to build up provi-
sional pictures of reality into which we can establish correctional feed-
back loops. These feedback loops allow us to navigate toward ever clearer
images of the system we have targeted for modeling. Also touched upon
were ways in which new forms emerge out of the natural order and ways
in which they are stabilized in time.

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The longer we talk, the more creation, imagination, and chaos all
seem to be the same thing, and there's a kind of melding of these con-
cepts. One can play any role and find that it's very much like the role
one has just left behind. This means we are succeeding; that the separate
notions we each represent are annealing.

Repression of chaos results in an inhibition of creativity and thus a
resistance to imagination. The creative imagination, manifested most
profoundly by people like Euler or Bach, should be functioning in
everyone. People have a resistance to their own creative imagination.
—Ralph Abraham

The imagination argues for a divine spark in human beings. It is
absolutely confounding if you try to see imagination as a necessary
quantity in biology. It is an emanation from above—literally a
descent of the world soul into all of us.
—Terence McKenna

One thing that's clear is that chaos is feminine, and creation out of
chaos is like creation out of the womb, an all-containing potentiality
emerging out of darkness.
—Rupert Sheldrake

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RALPH: There's a resonant relationship between chaos on plane
three and chaos on plane one of figure 3. My appreciation of this reso-
nance has increased over the past years. I am a devotee of chaos, but
not only on the mathematical plane. I should like now to speak about
chaos in ordinary life and the relationship of this chaos to the imagina-
tion. Along the way, I'll try to explain why I think that chaos theory is
the biggest thing since the wheel. Terence has emphasized the impor-
tance of chaos and fractals in his own thinking. I'll provide a further
reason to regard the chaos revolution as good news.

Somebody came to me last year and gave me a splendid quote,
knowing I was writing a nontechnical book on Chaos, Gaia, and Eros:
"All creation begins in chaos, progresses in chaos, and ends in chaos."
The word chaos occurred for the first time in Hesiod, around 800 B.C.,
at the beginning of the Orphic tradition of ancient Greece. The word
appeared in his Theogony, which was about the creation of the gods
and goddesses one by one. The three main deities were Chaos,
Gaia, and Eros.

This first time the word appeared in literature, it had nothing to do
with what we now mean by chaos in the English language and in ordi-
nary life. At that time, it meant a sort of gaping void between heaven
and Earth out of which form emerged. Creation came out of chaos,
but chaos did not mean disorder or anything negative; it only meant
a gaping void.

Proper nouns such as these in Greek literature don't mean people or
humanoid gods; they're abstract principles, particularly in Homer and
Hesiod and in the Orphic literature. The three I am discussing—Chaos,
Gaia, and Eros—are cosmic forces: Chaos is a sky concept; Gaia is an
Earth concept; Eros is a spirit concept. Whereas Chaos and Gaia are
feminine in Hesiod, Eros is bisexual, an androgyne. These are abstract
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they are like the body, the soul, and the spirit of the world.

The most obvious feature in the sky is the Milky Way. When it is
overhead, it appears as a kind of gap between the two sides of the sky.
The sky is sort of like an Easter basket with the ecliptic around the waist,
like a snake. All that is below the waist is considered the Underworld. All
above it is the Overwork!, or ordinary reality. There is a handle across
the top that is the Milky Way, which passes right through the middle of
the Overworld as the royal road for the gods traveling between the
Underworld and the Overworld.

The Milky Way looks like a fractal photograph, the prototypical
chaos in the sense of randomness or disorder. Understanding this, we
can connect the word with an earlier word, a proper noun, and cosmic
concept that represents what we see in the Milky Way itself. That noun is
"Tiamat," the goddess of chaos from Enuma Elish, the great epic poem of
Babylonian literature. This poem is a creation story about the origin of
the gods and the creation of the world by Tiamat and Apsu, the goddess
and god of chaos who lived in the water. These two deities created the
pantheon of gods and goddesses and the whole world. Later, Marduk,
a younger god in the next generation, appeared, and there was conflict
between the older and the younger gods over how the world ought to be
run. Apparently this conflict represented a social transformation, the
demotion of Apsu and Tiamat from the pantheon of the city of Babylon.
Marduk became the main god, Mister Big, of Babylon, around 2000 b.c,
coinciding with the sweep of patriarchy over that city, propelled on
a new type of war chariot with spoked instead of solid wheels.

TERENCE: You've reached the wheel.

RALPH: The wheel itself, as a mathematical model, is the paradigm of
order. Order has come to mean a process that is either static or periodic,
regularly changing in a cycle. In short, according to the Babylonian epic
Enuma Elish, Tiamat (chaos) was killed, ripped to pieces to create a new
world order by the hero of Babylon, Marduk. His New Year's celebra-
tions were honored all over old Europe, including even Stonehenge.
At the New Year's festivals, the epic poem was read as an annual
reminder that chaos was bad and was killed and replaced by an order
associated with periodicity, cycles, the wheel, perfect roundness, and

so on. For two thousand years, this poem was read every year in a cele-
bration lasting eleven days called the Akitu festival in Babylon. There
were almost identical festivals in Egypt, Crete, and Canaan.

All of this reveals the importance of today's chaos revolution.
Chaos is recovering from being banished to the unconscious since around
2000 B.C. or so. It has suffered four thousand years of repression. To this
day, in our culture, we think we have to watch out for chaos; it has to
be replaced by order. Scientists most especially hate it. Today, Tiamat
finally has to be accepted as a friend and reinstated upon her throne.
This is big news.

Now, about the imagination. So far in our discussions, we have
developed the connection between creativity and the imagination and the
one between chaos and creativity; thus, we have made an indirect connec-
tion between chaos and the imagination. I'm going to try to make a direct
link between chaos and the imagination, as shown in figure 4.

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Repression of chaos results in an inhibition of creativity and thus
a resistance to imagination. The creative imagination, manifest most
profoundly by people like Euler or Bach, should be functioning in
everyone. People have a resistance to their own creative imagination.
I'm suggesting that this resistance has a mythological, ritual base.
It represents a very deep chreode, a runnel in the morphogenetic field
with a depth of three to five Waddingtons.

TERENCE: Waddingtons?

RALPH: Rupert and I wanted to quantify the depth of a runnel. Since
C.H. Waddington introduced the chreode concept in connection with
embryology, as Rupert has explained, we thought it appropriate to
take his name for a unit of depth in the morphogenetic field.

Habits, according to Rupert, are runnels. They are deeply worn
paths in the morphogenetic field. Habit itself is a habit. We have a habit
of having habits. The habit of habits has a mathematical model called
by Waddington a chreode. This chreode is an attractor and its basin
(figure 1). Any state in the basin moves toward the attractor. The attractor
is the teleology of its habit. The habit of habits is the habit of living in a
landscape with peaks and valleys where there is a tendency to go down
the valley, down the track to the station. The habit of habits is good,
but some habits might be harmful.

One thing that creates a really deep runnel is the repetition of a myth
for eleven days in a row, once a year, for two thousand years. That makes
the myth a more serious matter, a deeper rut. As an example of a really
deep chreode, therefore, I recommend for your consideration the New
Year's festival of Akitu. Old Testament scholarship has produced a com-
parative study of New Year's festivals around the world that provides
amazing evidence of morphic resonance on a planetary scale. Based on
this evidence, there was, before radio, a global resonance with the Gaian
mind on the same level as the distribution of the so-called Venus fig-
urines of the Gravettian culture all over the planet.

This is the link between chaos and the imagination. The repression
of chaos, and the resulting obstruction of imagination, has led to the
development over thousands of years of the serious, perhaps fatal,
ecological problems that we have today. The growth of this problem

beyond all bounds, with few people even trying to do anything about it,
suggests denial and a lack of imagination. This is an artifact of a cul-
tural flaw that came along with the patriarchy.

I'm not saying that patriarchal culture is bad because it's patriarchal.
I'm saying it's bad because it has repressed chaos. Patriarchy has made
chaos bad and it has made Marduk boss: the god of law and order. We
must reject this view of chaos so that the planet and life and love can be
saved. Now, lo and behold, an event has come along that is as positive,
perhaps, as the discovery of the wheel was negative. Without giving
up the wheel, or our automobiles, we are regaining chaos for potential
partnership with the wheel. Chaos and order. Chaos and cosmos.
Chaos and the imagination.

TERENCE: Chaos and the imagination are paradoxically co-present in
everyday life, in the dimension in which we find ourselves. I would like
to expand on what Ralph has been saying from my own perspective.
Chaos is feminine. Chaos is intuitional. Chaos has a very flirtatious rela-
tionship with language. The process of creating a culture has to do with
how we relate to the seduction of chaos. Since we're talking about every-
day life, it seems reasonable to talk about how we come to be in the kind
of planetary mess that we're in and whether these extremely rarefied
and abstract matters that we've been talking about can in any way be
brought tangential to the issues of a burning planet.

The first key is the power of chaos, which is feminine, beyond pre-
diction, and beyond full, rational apprehension. The second source
of power is the Divine Imagination, the imagination that is our richest
legacy, the birthright that connects us to the divine. It's our poetic
capacity, our ability to resonate with a notion of ideal beauty and to
create that which transcends our own understanding in the form of art.

What does all this say about the situation we're in and how we've
gotten here? I believe that the importance of psychedelics relates primarily
to this situation, and not simply because they synergize cognition.

We have a secret history. Knowledge has been lost to us and is only
now recoverable in the light of the mindset possible if we accept the new
chaos paradigm. How this secret history relates to the Gaian mind and
the world soul is a kind of new revelation. We must become aware of the

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astonishing fact that as a species we are the victims of an instance of
traumatic abuse in childhood. As human beings, we once had a sym-
biotic relationship with the world-girdling intelligence of the planet
that was mediated through shamanic plant use. This relationship was
disrupted and eventually lost by the progressive climatic drying of the
Eurasian and African land masses. This was the literal force behind our
fall into history, our expulsion from Eden. All the primary myths of the
Golden Age found and lost point to the fact that once we lived in dynam-
ic balance with nature—not as animals, but as human beings in a unique
way that we have lost. How have we lost it, and what have we lost?

Psychoactive compounds that were brought into the expanding
human diet during the early part of our evolution inhibited the forma-
tion of the ego, promoting instead collectivist, tribal partnership values
operating intuitively in a reciprocal feedback relationship with the
feminine vegetable matrix of the biosphere. In other words, nothing was
verbalized and everything was felt. Everything was intuited. Regularly,
at the new and full moons, small groups of hunter-gatherers and pas-
toralists took hallucinogenic plants and dissolved their boundaries,
engaging in group sex and annealing irregularities that had cropped
up in their personal self-imaging since the last session. These practices
kept cultural reality grounded on the plane of group and species
values, which was in dynamic balance with the ecosystem.

When these practices were disrupted as supplies of these plants
diminished, new religious forms arose, and the time between these great
festivals grew longer and longer. The ego began to take hold, first as a
kind of cancerous aberration, then quickly becoming a new style of
behavior that eliminated other styles of behavior by suppressing access
to the sources of chaos.

The point I want to make is that between the ego and the full
understanding of reality is a barrier: the fear of the ego to surrender to
the fact of chaos. In a premodern society, no woman could escape chaos
because of the automatic birth script that had women giving birth over
and over and over until death. Women are biologically scripted into
being much closer to chaos simply because there are certain episodes in
the life of a female that are guaranteed to be boundary dissolving. The
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penetration, creates an entirely different relationship to boundary than
does the male need to fulfill the potential to penetrate.

We have lost touch with chaos because it is feared by the dominant
archetype of our world, the ego. The ego's existence is defined in terms of
control. The endless modeling process that the ego carries out is an
effort to fight the absence of closure. The ego wants closure. It wants
a complete explanation.

The beginning of wisdom, I believe, is our ability to accept an
inherent messiness in our explanation of what's going on. Nowhere is it
written that human minds should be able to give a full accounting of
creation in all dimensions and on all levels. Ludwig Wittgenstein had the
idea that philosophy should be what he called "true enough." I think
that's a great idea. True enough is as true as it can be gotten. The imag-
ination is chaos. New forms are fetched out of it. The creative art is
to let down the net of human imagination into the ocean of chaos on
which we are suspended and then to attempt to bring out of it ideas.

My model for the psychedelic experience is the night sea journey—
yourself as the lone fisherman on a tropical sea with your nets. Some-
times, something tears through your nets and leaves them in shreds, so
you just row for shore and put your head under your bed and pray. Other
times, what slips through the nets are the minutiae, the minnows of this
icthyological metaphor of idea chasing. Sometimes you actually bring
home something that is food for the human community, from which we
can sustain ourselves and go forward.

We haven't talked much about art and aesthetics so far, but I think a
unique characteristic of the human world is its appetition for beauty.
This is another place where Platonism shines radiantly. Plato held that
the Good was the Truth and that both were the Beautiful. This is a very
quaint idea from the point of view of modern philosophy, but I feel it in
my bones when I actually connect myself up to the planet.

I believe chaos is capable of being a tremendous repository of ordered
beauty. There is no disorder in the old definition of chaos. Chaos as
disorder is a kind of hell notion, a kind of hypostatization of an ultimate
state of disorder. Nowhere in the world that is deployed through space
and time do we encounter this. Instead, we encounter embedded order
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Finally, for me, imagination is the goal of history. I see culture as
an effort to literally realize our collective dreams. The process is now
operating on a very crude level: You make your mask and I make my
mask and then we dance around together. You design your shopping mall
and I'll design my World Trade Center and we'll put them on the same
piece of real estate. Today, through media, psychopharmacology, virtual
reality and human/machine integration, we're creating a situation in
which the imagination is something that we can share. The path of mind
through its own meanderings will become something that can be re-
corded and played back. We will have the possibility of living in our
own past, or of creating and trading realities as art. Art as life lived in the
imagination is the great archetype that rears itself up at the end of history.

The imagination is an auric field that surrounds the transcendental
object at the end of time. As we close distance with it, all of our cultural
expression and self-awareness takes on a curiously designed quality.
The world is very heavily designed in a way that it never was before.
Morphogenetic fields of great size and scope, in the form of international
schools of architecture and design, touch whole continents. Entire cities
are given certain ambiences. This is the summoning of imagination into
the human scale. It's like a god that we call down and draw to Earth.
William Blake called it the Divine Imagination. It's the four-gated city,
the flying saucer. We are on a journey to meet the great attractor, and as
we close the distance it is more and more a multifaceted mirror of our
own images of beauty. This journey is an ascending learning curve that is
becoming asymptotic; at that point, we are face to face with a living
mystery that is within each and all of us.

The imagination argues for a divine spark in human beings. It is
absolutely confounding if you try to see imagination as a necessary
quantity in biology. It is an emanation from above—literally a descent of
the world soul into all of us. We are the atoms of the world soul. We open
our channel to it by closing our eyes and obliterating our immediate, per-
sonalized, space-time locus. We then fall into the imagination, which
runs like an endless river through all of us and is driven by the hydraulic
momentum of the cataracts of chaos.

Riverine metaphors are endlessly applicable. They represent the
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tion to create creativity. These things are icons for the world that wants
to be. The key is surrender and dissolution of boundaries, dissolution
of the ego, and trust in the love of the Goddess that transcends rational
understanding. There will come a moment that will be an absolute leap
into faith, and we will simply have to believe that something is waiting
there because the dominator style of the ego has left us no choice.

RALPH: "Cataracts of chaos"—these words roll off his tongue, which
obviously has a direct connection to the cataracts of chaos themselves!
There are so many different ideas to respond to here. I'll try to limit
myself to one or two.

I'd like to connect two statements with a key from the Eleusinian
mysteries. This conversation has stimulated speculation on what
happened to the cataracts of chaos in the hands of the patriarchy.

Historians generally suppose that there's a straight line of influence
from Babylon to Ugarit to Minoan Crete to Mycenae to Athens, a cul-
tural diffusion that includes the festivals, which, as I said, are very
similar. However, in the Babylonian festival, by 2000 B.C., there was
already extensive domination by the patriarchal male god of order.
In Minoan Crete, on the other hand, according to the excavators and
all who have examined the artworks that remain, there was an out-
standing, longlasting florescence of partnership culture with no
domination by a male god. This presents a little question mark about
the diffusion of culture from Babylon to Crete.

There is a complementary theory that postulates there was a renewal
of partnership culture in Crete that came from India in the early days of
Cretan culture, around 3000 B.C. In any case, it is agreed that there was
diffusion from Crete to Greece and that the last remainder of Cretan
culture, the last vestige of the Garden of Eden we're talking about, was
a tremendous happiness and florescence of beauty in all aspects of life.

The Eleusinian mysteries were said to be identical to those that in
Crete were celebrated publicly. They only became secret after the patri-
archal takeover by Mycenaeans in Crete and the exportation of this dual
culture to Greece. There occurred a bifurcation into the Overwork! and
the Underworld, the conscious and the unconscious. The culture of the
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tinued to exist in Greece, but as secret festivals known as the mysteries.

Among the common aspects of the festivals in Crete and Eleusis
were the sexual and psychedelic rites celebrated in rigidly specified ritual
formats on an annual basis. In patriarchy, because of its patrilineal
aspect, one has to know the father of the children, not just the mother.
Therefore, monogamy is very important to patriarchy, and this was in
strong conflict with the Cretan rituals. Sooner or later, the sexual
rituals had to go.

This is a simple explanation, not confirmed by scholarship, for the
repression of these rites. The Eleusinian mysteries disappeared, and what
we are left with is the paradigm of Marduk the control freak, law and
order, the repression of chaos, and the constipation of the imagination
and fantasy.

Somehow, sexual license, the psychedelic ritual, and chaos go
together. The New "fear's festival continues to our day, but the sexual/
psychedelic/chaotic aspects of it were long ago removed and replaced
with a recital of the conquest of chaos by the god of order.

TERENCE: Do you think it's because the ego is basically on a control
trip and must become the center of the space in which it operates?
Egomaniacs control women and resources. They believe vigilance is
the key, as in the national motto of Albania, "Fear it is that guards
the vineyard."

Our culture definitely takes an egocentric dominator view. The fear
of the psychedelic experience is quite literally the fear of losing control.
Dominator types today don't understand that it's not important to
maintain control if you are not in control in the first place.

In a tribal society, for instance, where there is no property and there
are no assigned sleeping places, everyone behaves according to something
that we can only call whim. Whim has been replaced by "mine, yours,
my spot, your spot, my food, your food," which has led to the dissolution
of the psychedelic collectivity. The world has become very threatening
and everything is up for grabs. Now we have to rely on the interpreta-
tion of group values instead of on felt intuition. The ego is paranoia
institutionalized.

RALPH: I guess it's a package deal. We have the dominator, the patriar-

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chy, and the ego, which in our culture we can see as a male disease like
testosterone poisoning.

TERENCE: I don't see it as a male disease. I think everybody in this room
has a far stronger ego than they need. The great thing that Riane Eisler,
in her book The Chalice and The Blade, did for this discussion was
to de-genderize the terminology. Instead of talking about patriarchy
and all this, what we should be talking about is dominator versus
partnership society.

RALPH: I agree with you; it's a good service she has done. However, the
problem we're faced with is how to get back to the partnership paradigm.

One practical suggestion is your missionary appeal for psychedelic
usage. The ego aspect of the problem arose not only through the sup-
pression of psychedelic usage in ritual but through the gradually in-
creasing interval between festivals. This process was similar to the
cooling of the universe, out of which different material forms crystallized.
The dominator society sort of crystallized out through the gradual in-
crease in the interval between partnership rituals.

TERENCE: That is part of it, definitely. The phonetic alphabet plays a
role of further abstracting from process, giving permission for all kinds of
curious dis-ensouling maneuvers on the part of the dominator/ego.

RALPH: Well, we still have mathematics and music.

TERENCE: Yes, but so few people have them. And those few who do
are the creative engines of their societies. They keep the connection
to the muse.

RALPH: Do you think that the Eleusinian mysteries could be reinstituted?
Or has this possibility been irrevocably lost to "progress"?

TERENCE: The psychedelic revival is an effort to find our way back to
something like the mysteries. We are not the first nor the most eminent
to suggest this kind of reengineering of the human animal. I call attention
to the words of Arthur Koestler, the great anticommunist freedom fighter
and scientific intellectual. In a book called The Ghost in the Machine,
he concluded that there has to be mass pharmacological intervention to
change human behavior. He envisioned a drug thai inhibits territoriality.

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Our reflexes and our mental set are highly and well adapted to the ston-
ing to death of woolly mastodons, but, since we so rarely do that, we
need to retool for living in peace while managing limited resources.
The dissolving of boundaries by psychedelics certainly makes them
candidates for antiterritoriality drugs.

RALPH: Do you think that some of our existing national holidays could
be changed, or that a mythological mutation could be introduced that
would go in this direction? For example, in Switzerland, they recently
invented Fastnacht. They previously had no rituals at all, barely Christ-
mas, and there was a suffering of enormous boredom among people
there. It was said that there was no known way to make a new friend
in Switzerland. So, just a few years ago, they instituted Fastnacht, in
February. It is three days and nights of alcoholic revelry around the fan-
tastic reenactment of a medieval drama. It involves people marching in
the streets in parades led by musicians who have practiced a medieval
song on medieval instruments all year long just for this three-day cere-
mony. Now it is said that, during Fastnacht, you can make a new friend.

TERENCE: Something along that line that I've advocated—sometimes
facetiously, sometimes seriously—is calendrical reform, and I have just
the calendar all worked out. I won't lay it all out here, but the basic
notion is that it's a lunar calendar of thirteen lunar cycles. It has three
hundred and eighty-four days, and consequently it precesses nineteen
days against the solar year. This would have the effect of taking the great
yearly events of the calendar and slowly moving them through the
seasons. For instance, if we kept Christmas on December 25, and you
as child celebrated Christmas in winter, then as a teenager you would
celebrate it in spring, and as a young adult you would celebrate it in high
summer. As an older person, it would occur in autumn, and then, when
you were truly old, Christmas would return again to the winter.

The notion is to overcome the really bad dominator idea that the
calendar should be anchored rigidly at the equinoctial and solstitial
points so that the heliacal rising of the equinoctial sun is always in the
same place. Our current calendar sends the message that there is stability.
The calendar is the largest framework there is; in it, all other contexts are
somehow subsets. The solar calendar is an effort to deny humanity'!

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mortality by reinforcing a false notion of permanence. What we actually
want is a calendar that says to us, "All is flow; all is flux; all relationships
are in motion to everything else." This is a truer picture of the world.
This may seem trivial, and exemplary of why we eggheads are harm-
less. But, think about it.

If we yield the structure of the calendar to the dominator culture,
letting it tell us what kind of calendar we shall have, then we shall all live
within the context of the dominator framework. Changing the calendar
would have tremendous consequences, and it would not be opposed by
the dominant culture until it was too late. It would be regarded as some
kind of a crank thing, because it wouldn't be realized that we were
twiddling with the dials of our whole civilization's image of time
and change.

The year 2000 provides a built-in opportunity to switch the train to
a new track because at these millennial moments there's a certain uncer-
tainty in the mass mind about how to proceed. If you just jump up onto
the stage and say, "This is it, folks!" you might be able to pull it off.

RUPERT: The first thing that occurs to me is that your idea of a lunar
calendar in which the months and festivals move around the year is
already in place. It's the calendar of the Islamic world. For example,
Ramadan, the fasting month, retrogresses around the year, so people
experience it both in winter and in summer in the course of their lives.
This is not exactly a confirmation of your theory about such a calendar
breaking the dominator mode.

TERENCE: Your point is certainly, um . . . unwelcome.

RUPERT: I'm still baffled by chaos. Its meaning keeps shifting. We started
off with chaos not having a negative connotation and just meaning the
yawning void. In fact, as Ralph explained, it was the sky. Then it was the
great womb, the source of all things. It then got turned into Tiamat, who
was slain by Marduk. In the first chapter of the book of Genesis, it's the
"deep." The "spirit moving on the face of the waters" sounds to me like a
wave theory of creation, as wind on water sets up waves. One thing that's
clear is that chaos is feminine, and creation out of chaos is like creation
out of the womb, an all-containing potentiality emerging out of darkness.

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One of the metaphors that Terence used of the imagination was the
dipping of nets into the deep ocean and the pulling up of coelacanths
of the imagination. This corresponds to the kind of imagery used by the
Jungians for the unconscious bubbling up from below, and it also fits
with the idea of creativity welling up from the darkness of the Earth.
Again, this is a model used in the book of Genesis. The biblical account
of Creation doesn't have God creating animals and plants. It has God
saying, "Let the Earth bring forth fresh growth; let there be on the Earth
plants bearing seeds, fruit trees bearing fruit, each with seed according to
its kind" (Genesis 1:11), and then, "Let the Earth bring forth living crea-
tures according to their kind" (Genesis 1:24). The Earth brings them
forth from herself.

Terence also used the metaphor of the imagination descending from
above, which is a traditional Platonic or Neoplatonic image. In this
model, creativity comes down from above, becoming more and more
manifest through a series of stages. These metaphors have given us both a
top-down and a bottom-up model of creativity. Most theories of creativ-
ity I come across oscillate unstably between those two models. I usually
try to resolve the conflict by saying it must be a mixture of both.

In the realm of theology, these two models are known as ascend-
ing and descending Christology. In the first three gospels, the model is
Jesus Christ, who was born as a child, initiated by John the Baptist, and
received a new spiritual illumination at his baptism. He underwent a
development and spiritual transformation and became God. A man
becoming God is an ascending or bottom-up developmental process.
Then, in the Gospel of John, there is the Platonic model of the Word
becoming flesh, God becoming man, the top-down model of creativity.
These models have always co-existed in Christian theology in a dia-
lectical tension.

In most discussions of creativity, one gets into the same polarity.
Chaos is seen by Ralph on the one hand as a chaotic, indeterminate
process that, in some sense, liberates us from older models of control and
mechanistic determinism. On the other hand, he also adopts the top-
down model because he wants the generation of chaos to come from
simple mathematical principles. There is also the attempt to Came chaos
by modeling using the top-down method. Mathematical modeling of

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chaos, if not exactly in the dominator mode, is still, I think, within the
Saint George and the Dragon archetype. Actually, Saint George didn't
slay the dragon. He pierced the dragon, tamed it, and led it captive
into the city. The dragon in that myth is obviously another form of
the primal monster of chaos.

Are these metaphors just alternative models between which one can
switch, like changing tracks? Are they aspects of the same process, or
are they complementary processes?

TERENCE: I think they're different pictures of the same process. Much
as the image of the Star of David can be seen as the interpenetration
of two triangles, this process is the notion of "as above, so below."
We don't understand it unless we're somehow able to hold both images
simultaneously. It's a cardinal premise, I think, that in talking about these
kinds of things you can't force closure. This is alchemical thinking, in
that the things that are being described are multidimensional objects
that can sustain seemingly contradictory descriptions. These are com-
pound, complex concepts that must have this overlay to be correctly
communicated or appreciated.

RALPH: As above, so below. In the history of the chaos concept, as
I described it, there is a syncretism of the Hesiodic Chaos concept as
the Milky Way, a yawning, celestial void, with the Babylonian Tiamat
concept of chaos as a dragon or sea serpent. There are numerous pictures
in Babylonian art of this sea serpent with a bridle and Marduk standing
on its back holding the reins, driving it along. Marduk has conquered the
sea serpent. For some reason, mythology at this point in history required
that a celestial figure be overlaid on an Earth figure. There are many
gods and goddesses in the pantheon, and frequently they are different
aspects of the same thing. Rupert took me into a church in Santa Cruz
and showed me a shrine to Our Lady, the Virgin of Guadalupe, with a
painting of her as a black goddess, a chthonic Earth Mother figure.
She's wearing a dress with stars printed all over it.

In the Easter basket model, the sky as a visible hemisphere comes to
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the sky and the Earth is actually the Milky Way, the handle of the bas-
ket. This is the royal road of the gods down which Orpheus goes to the
Underworld to look for Eurydice. The point where the sky meets the
Earth, where the handle of the basket connects to the woven part,
is where the mathematical model meets the unconscious of the Gaian
mind. This is where the mathematical version of chaos meets the chaos
of everyday life, and where the erotic and synergistic relationship between
the Earth and sky versions of chaos is going to take place.

TERENCE: Eleusis was a great turning point and a cultural episode not
frequently enough discussed. After thousands and thousands of years,
the Goddess-worshiping, orgiastic, psychedelic religion finally was
confined to a few shrines in Greece and Crete. Then, ultimately, it was
confined to a few shrines only in Greece. It lingered there until Alaric
the Visigoth finally did it under.

This boundary-dissolving relationship to the vegetable, Gaian
mind left our tradition only about seventeen hundred years ago. In that
seventeen hundred years, in the absence of a dialogue with the Gaian
expression of chaos, successively more deadly cultural forms, beginning
with the phonetic alphabet and moving on to movable type and all
the rest, evolved. Each one of these technologies has had a tremendous
negative impact on our self-image and has entangled us deeper and
deeper in a kind of Faustian pact with the physical world. It's that blind-
ness that has led us to the present situation. In the absence of any
boundary-dissolving ecstasies, we are left with the machinations of the
ego, which has led very quickly into a cultural cul-de-sac from which
there may or may not be an escape.

In studying that wrong turning, what was betrayed, what came out
on top, and what was suppressed, we can perhaps run the film back-
wards and in some sense restore the previous situation. This involves
opening our lives to chaos and becoming much more a part of the will of
the world soul. It means recapturing the Greek sense of fate that has been
replaced in our minds by the Faustian illusion of control and dominance.

RALPH: The good news is that this opening to chaos is actually under

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way. The chaos revolution now taking place throughout the sciences is
a major setback for the forces of law and order, control and dominance.
Scientists, the high priests of Marduk, must now accept chaos and
replace Tiamat on her rightful throne. This is why I say that chaos is
the biggest thing since the wheel. Imagination, creativity, and inspiration
are all on the upswing. Chaos, Gaia, Eros—arise!

I'm into the world soul as the largest and smartest creature imag-
inable. It isn't the God who hung stars like lamps in heaven,
and it isn't the force that spins the galaxies on their axes. The world
soul is something that has arisen out of biology. It's an organism
within the universe of space and time, but it didn't make the
universe. It's an inhabitant of it, but on a scale that makes us
mere atoms within its form.
—Terence McKenna

The Gaian mind may be faltering due to a bad habit. Incarnation is
addictive, and the reason there is an infection out of control on this
planet is because of this bad habit.
—Ralph Abraham

Insofar as the mushroom and the human psyche have had a symbi-
otic relationship, the mushroom-induced experiences in human
consciousness are in the morphic field of this symbiotic relationship.
Therefore, these experiences could be carried by the mushroom.
—Rupert Sheldrake

The World Soul
and the Mushroom

RUPERT: Terence, do you believe that creation comes out of
randomness?

TERENCE: It seems as though randomness is the least likely thing.
The probabilistic view assumes that nature has randomness built into
it because randomness is something that probability mechanics is
competent to make statements about. Yet nowhere in nature do we
encounter this randomness. The averaging of many data samples sup-
presses the characteristics of unusual events by giving smooth curves
that we assume describe processes we've never actually examined with
sufficient care. When we look carefully, as we are beginning to, we find
fractal structures that are self-similar and surprisingly unpredictable.
My notion of a novelty wave is offered in this new spirit. It would
replace the idea of time as a smooth surface—as in the pure duration of
the Newtonians—with the idea of time being composed of discrete ele-
ments complexed together in a unique way under the aegis of definable
rules. This can be visualized as a fractal wave pattern overlaying the uni-
verse of space/time. The pattern imparts to time the local quality of
either conserving accumulated material from the past or expressing
novel connections with emergent properties previously only implicate.

RUPERT: If there's no randomness in the universe, then what do we mean
by chaos?

RALPH: Well, ironically, in the chaos revolution, in the technical jargon
of mathematics, we're talking about mathematical models that are
chaotic in that they share the intuitive meaning of chaos, yet they are not
random. Originally, when these models were discovered, they were called
strange attractors. Then we saw that they were ever-present in nature,
so we decided they shouldn't be called strange. Someone suggested they
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that these models Were the opposite of what chaos ordinarily means,
because they have order. I understand Rupert's question to refer to ran-
dom behavior that is outside the realm of these mathematical models,
which are chaotic, yet not random. The question is whether anything in
nature lies outside the "ordered" realm of the chaotic attractors.

RUPERT: Yes.

RALPH: In my view, there is a lot left beyond our ken. We don't know if,
in the future, models for this "lot left beyond" will emerge or not. Given
sufficient time to continue our present evolutionary path with science,
mathematics, computers, and so on, I should think that the amount of
so-called "random" behavior—in the sense of our ignorance of any
structure in it—would be in sharp decline. Nevertheless, in the world
of these mathematical models for chaos, there is space for novelty,
mutation, and the discovery of totally new patterns. I don't think that
we need randomness in order to have the evolution of new forms.

RUPERT: What we do need is a universe sufficiently open and undeter-
mined for new forms to have space to arise in. If all of nature is already
geared up to follow predetermined waves, patterns, forms, and so on,
whether they're modeled in Terence's computer or somebody else's, then
there's not much space left for something truly new to emerge. My view
is that the complexity of Terence's novelty wave, as a concept of the
quality of time, might develop as the universe develops, not according
to some simple algorithm but in a way that's truly unforeseeable.

TERENCE: This would arise out of its resonance with its own past. It's
in the realm of resonances that this very difficult-to-quantify complex-
ification accumulates.

RUPERT: My problem is that I think spontaneity and creativity come
first. All these attempts to construct models of what's going on will be
inadequate to encompass the phenomena.

TERENCE: All models are provisional, and that's what preserves the
open-endedness of what they are modeling. The great intellectual and
emotional change accompanying the paradigm shift will be in people's
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the depth of the mystery exceeds explanations. Models are always pro-
visional, always made of string and sealing wax. There is a part of reality
that has been referred to as the value-dark dimension, about which
nothing can be absolutely known. Chaos is in there somewhere. The task
of human becoming, and of mathematics and our intellectual tools, is
to cast light into this dimension. This gives us a sense of discovery and
meaning, but it can never reduce the dimension to absolutes. Eventually,
there is a domain in the value-dark dimension that is value-dark in prin-
ciple. The physical analogy that we have for this is a black hole, from
which no information escapes. We have to build into our theories these
kinds of trap doors and escapes so that we don't get caught inside
another illusion.

RUPERT: The attempt to tame chaos by having mathematical models of
it is a modern version on a rather abstract plane of the old myth of the
solar hero conquering the sea monster, the dragon of the deep, the
serpent of chaos. In the Christian version, Saint Michael or Saint George
is the shining hero piercing the darkness of the dragon. Ralph said that
we can model some of these chaotic processes but that there might be a
small, medium, or large residuum. Let's assume it's large. Then we build
more models to model some of the residuum. From there, it would be
easy to slide into the familiar statement, "Well, in principle, it should be
possible to model it all." This is the modern version of the idea that
somehow, in principle, the whole of reality can be engulfed within some
kind of mathematical model. In other words, the world soul is in some
sense subject to the supreme mathematical mind, which is superior to,
transcendent of, and prior to the whole natural world. This slides over
into a kind of metaphysics that's very traditional among mathematicians.

RALPH: We've got to have a talk about this, Rupert. You persist in think-
ing that mathematics hasn't advanced since the time of Plato, Your
objection to models for chaos is based on an inappropriate view of
Platonic ideals. The new models for chaos are coming into existence by
a process of evolution and discovery. I don't think that Plato, or anyone
before the invention of the computer, could even have imagined them.
This discovery process is part of the evolutionary, creative aspect of the
world soul, which we can think of now in two layers. One layer is the

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world of matter and energy in which there is the discovery of new fields
in evolution. The other layer is the mental world, which includes
verbal descriptions and mathematical models.

Apparently, these two levels are in a process of coevolution. If, as in
figure 3, there is a Gaian unconscious supplying new forms out of chaos
as raw material for evolution, then either it is supplying both levels,
the mental and the physical, or else the mental and the physical are two
separate levels to the Gaian unconscious. Probably, there's a connection
from the Gaian unconscious to each of the two coevolving levels; this
three-way connection could be modeled as a triangle. The idea that
whatever comes into consciousness has a mathematical model doesn't
conflict with creation, because we can't assume that all mathematical
models already exist. There's the same infinite possibility of discovery,
invention, and novelty in this mental plane as in the material. Why not?
What's the difference?

Rupert, you seem to think that one or the other of these has to
have precedence over the other—that either the mathematical model is
abstracted from material observation or the material world is concretizing
or condensing around mathematical models. This is unnecessary. It may
be just a process of coevolution. Sometimes the left foot leads and
sometimes the right.

RUPERT: Fine. That's a wonderful explanation. However, whereas you're
a mathematician yet not a Platonist, Terence is much more Platonic. He
thinks the novelty wave is coming from some kind of higher realm and
somehow underlies the behind-the-scenes mechanics of the cosmos.

TERENCE: I'm not sure whether this novelty wave is simply a mathe-
matical description of an enzymatically mediated process on the surface
of the Earth or, as you indicated, whether it can be raised to the level
of a higher principle. It is determined, but only in a fairly weak way
that sets the schedule of events without announcing what the events will
be. I'm troubled by my Platonism. I realize that certain naive assumptions
haunt it. I don't want these forms to be eternal. I want them to somehow
arise internally out of the ongoing process of the world. I haven't quite
figured out how to get these ducks all in a row.

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RALPH: Before the computer revolution, there might have been some
question as to the pre-existence of all mathematical forms. But now,
there's no question. Mathematics is a world of its own, a landscape with
hills and valleys, and much of this terrain has not been explored. Some
features have been identified by various travelers who have come back
and given their reports. There is a process of discovery of the already
existing landscape as well as the modification and evolution of that
landscape through the interaction of human consciousness. Although
it's one, two, three here, and one, two, three everywhere, we could still
land on a foreign planet and find that they had explored, excavated, and
modified a region of the mathematical landscape never visited by us.

TERENCE: So little of mathematics has to do with numbers. It's basically
paying attention to the rules operating among defined sets of objects.
I think that once you figure out what mathematics is, every single
one of us could invent a new branch of it.

RALPH: I don't believe that mathematics is the result of creative activi-
ty on the part of people, that it's been invented. It hangs together with an
integrity that is beyond the capabilities of the short history of human
consciousness.

TERENCE: Does it hang together? Or is it an archipelago of islands? Do
the people who are doing advanced number theory have anything what-
soever to say to the super algebraists who don't have anything to say to
the fractal people?

RALPH: I think it's a single landscape, all tied together in complete
integrity.

TERENCE: A wild-eyed claim!

RALPH: It doesn't matter too much. The varied mathematical theories
are just impressions of travelers having returned from a distant land. I
think it's time for us to face the soul of the world. We know from reports
in the Library of Congress that other people have seen in their travels a
different part of the world soul. Mathematics here, sensory experience
there, Babylonian history here, chaos of the unconscious providing
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relationship between the existence of the world soul and the human
imagination? The mathematical landscape was extensively traveled,
mapped, experienced, and used in the biological world long before the
human species evolved. What is the role of mathematics in the coevolu-
tion of the world soul and human consciousness?

RUPERT: One can deduce several things about the soul of the world.
One is that it contains qualities as well as quantities. The world we actu-
ally experience is full of colors, sounds, smells, and other qualities known
to us through our senses. The procedure of science since the seventeenth
century has been to ignore sensory qualities and to consider only what
were called the primary qualities of substances, namely, their weight,
position, momentum, and so on. These could be assigned numbers
and treated mathematically. Reality was treated as colorless, tasteless,
soundless, and odorless. It was abstract, objective, and mathematical.
Qualities known through our senses had no objective existence outside
of the mind of the subjective observer.

It seems to me that the imagination of the world soul is going to
work, not just in terms of numbers and mathematics, but also in terms
of qualities. It's likely to contain all possible tastes, smells, colors, and
other qualities that exist in the world, as well as the experience and
imagination of these qualities.

TERENCE: Heaven.

RUPERT: No, it's not heaven. It's the soul of the world. The soul contains
not only everything that's in the world but also the imagination that has
given rise to everything in the world. And this imagination is continually
active, giving rise to new forms and possibilities.

RALPH: Does that mean the soul of the world is not evolving but is
already complete?

RUPERT: To answer that, let me look first at a more conventional view
of the soul of the world. Theoretical physicists are currently trying to
conceive of a unified field of everything. This was Einstein's goal, but
he couldn't reach it because he tried to do it by mathematics alone.
This problem is now seen in the context of the Big Bang cosmology.
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back to the first few jiffies, the temperature rockets up to billions of
degrees centigrade and everything changes. Things don't behave the same
way they behave in the present. They become more symmetrical. When
the universe is cranked back even further, it arrives at a state of primal
unity, the primal field of nature. According to superstring theory, this
field has nine dimensions of space and one of time. As the universe
develops and expands, symmetries break, and the fields of nature, such
as the electromagnetic and the gravitational fields, precipitate out.

All forms and patterns of things that develop in the world have their
own organizing fields, and all are ultimately derived from the primal
unified field, which remains the all-encompassing field of the world.
The world field, since it contains everything within it, necessarily has an
evolutionary quality because it embraces everything that happens in the
evolving cosmos. This is the conception toward which modern cosmo-
logical speculation is pointing.

In my own view, the world field has a memory of everything that's
happened within it already. The cosmic imagination involves ongoing
memory in a world whose physical body is shaped by the habits of
nature. Thinking of the world soul in terms of a world field still has
a kind of black-and-white, mathematical, abstract quality to it. What
I want to express is that any reasonable conception of the world
soul would have to recognize the existence of colors, tastes, smells,
sounds, and other qualities.

TERENCE: We use the word soul for the world soul because we sense an
analogy with the soul of the individual. If you begin to carry forward that
analogy, you get into some fairly astonishing places. We imagine the soul
to be a nonlocalizable, nonmaterial essence that survives death, a higher
dimensional form erected through the process of life that when the body
dies is released into a higher dimension that is its source and home.

Pursuing this analogy, is the world soul an invisible, unseen,
organismic structure that has been erected through the evolution of life
on this plane? Is the destiny of the world soul incomplete until it severs
itself from the matrix that created it? Is the global crisis and inner search-
ing and turmoil of our time the dawning realization that we are actu-

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ally facing the death of the world soul, meaning its severance from

the dimensions that allowed it to accrete and form?

RALPH: I must say I'm feeling very uncomfortable with this discussion,
and I'm astonished to find myself sitting here accusing you guys, of all
people, of thinking too small. I find the whole idea that the world's
soul is confined in a space/time continuum of four or ten dimensions
extremely claustrophobic, as well as the idea that the world soul had no
chance of existence until the Big Bang provided matter and energy or
something. I'm even doubtful about the Big Bang. But even assuming
that it occurred, I think the whole idea of soul suggests the aspiration of
eternity for consciousness and unconsciousness or for some ultimate
essence of the life experience. It could be that solar systems come and
go, that universes come and go, and that the world soul, as it were, in-
carnates in one universe after another. After a Big Bang, there may
follow a collapse, followed by another Big Bang. The idea of the world
soul coming to an end once and for all because of a nuclear winter
or something is very confining.

TERENCE: I'm not suggesting that it ceases to exist. I'm suggesting that
it's liberated into another dimension.

RUPERT: Ralph, yours is the Hindu model, and Terence's is the Christian.

RALPH: Perhaps. I'm talking about an existence of the world soul that is
beyond space and time. Space and time are illusions having to do with
the severe restrictions of incarnation in these chimpanzee bodies.

RUPERT: This is pure Hinduism. It is a Hindu doctrine that the soul
comes from a realm beyond space and time and is incarnated in a body.
When its body dies, it is reincarnated in another one. The soul's true
destiny is not in the body. It remains in touch with the source from which
it has come, which is far greater than any of its embodied existences.

One possible traditional model is that the universe will die, and then
the cosmic soul will be reincarnated. I contrast it with Terence's model,
which is the Christian eschatological model in which the universe reaches
a culmination. Theidea is that the whole of creation, the entire universe,
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new creation—not just of humanity, and not just of this Earth, but of the
whole cosmos.

TERENCE: Out of Bios.

RUPERT: Out of Bios comes a totally new order of existence. This cor-
responds roughly to your notion of the embodiment of the world soul
coming to an end—presumably not just on this Earth, but in the entire
cosmos. This is the most extreme version of Judeo-Christian eschato-
logical thought.

TERENCE: Devil, you say. This is most extreme. Out of devotion to my
theory, I give assent to it. However, my personal notion of the world soul
is not as metaphysical as either of yours. I'm not really into it as God
Almighty. I'm into the world soul as the largest and smartest creature
imaginable. It isn't the god who hung stars like lamps in heaven, and it
isn't the force that spins the galaxies on their axes. The world soul is
something that has arisen out of biology. It's an organism within the
universe of space and time, but it didn't make the universe. It's an inhab-
itant of it, but on a scale that makes us mere atoms within its form.

RALPH: I think we're all involved in a kind of compromise. What we
need here is a Twelve-Step group or something. We have to reprogram
ourselves out of our childhood conditioning as the Hindu, the Judeo-
Christian, and the Scientist. Our work, thought, talk, and relationship
are very much inspired by our individual travels through the spirit, where
we have seen and felt the largeness of the world soul. When we discuss it
or bring it down into language or relate it to ordinary reality, there is a
tendency toward conservatism, which ends up looking like anthropo-
centrism. We compress what we've experienced on a grand scale down
to the human scale and relate it too much to human consciousness
and human history.

TERENCE: When I look at human history, I see the accumulation of a
sense of urgency long before anyone started worrying about ecocide or
population. It's almost as though the world soul is the thing that wants
to live and, sensing instability, it is trying to build a lifeboat out of the
clumsy material of protoplasm.

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RALPH: This is like fighting an infection. The Gaian mind may be falter-
ing due to a bad habit. Incarnation is addictive, and the reason there is
an infection but of control on this planet is because of this bad habit.

TERENCE: The world soul may actually sense the finite life of the sun,
and it may be trying to build a lifeboat for itself to cross to another star.
How in the world can you cross to another star when the only material
available is protoplasm? Well, it may take fifty million years, but there
are strategies. They have to do with genetic languages, and with develop-
ing a creature who deals with matter through abstraction and analysis,
eventually creating technology. This is all an enzymatically mediated
process, a plan in the mind of the world soul to survive.

RALPH: In our experience of the divine logos, isn't there the feeling that
we've already gone beyond the physical plane of protoplasm? Is this not
already a kind of star travel?

TERENCE: Yes, but then why this increasing urgency, century after cen-
tury? For fifteen thousand years, there has been increasing anxiety and
the following of increasingly irrational chreodes. Only if there is a prob-
lem with the stability of the environment do the last ten thousand years
of human history make any sense. This problem has created history as
an evacuation, a frantic project to find a way out. That's why things have
been allowed to tear loose, to poison the oceans, to strip the continents.
The world soul, I think, is in communication with us in the culminating
moment of human history. Everything is being scripted for a purpose,
and toward an end unglimpsed by us but tied up with the survival
of everything.

If it were seriously important to attain star flight at all costs because
the biosphere is in trouble, a fruitful approach would be superminiatur-
ization. In other words, we would need to find a way to turn people into
spores and then seed these spores throughout the galaxy, relying on light
pressure and gravitational convection to distribute them. At the rate of
percolation of matter through the galaxy, spores released from a single
planet could penetrate the entire galaxy in" about forty-five million years,
which on the scale of the life of the universe is not long at all. I think
what is called for is a retooling of the human form.

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RALPH: We're going to send termites out into space?

TERENCE: Mushrooms! Human mushrooms. We know that psilocybin
is closely related to serotonin. Serotonin makes the brain functions of the
mental universe possible for the mushroom.

If you think about the mushroom, it is perfectly engineered for truly
long-duration survival and adaptation. Look how lightly it touches mat-
ter. Its mycelium is simply a cobweb in the soil of any planet, and yet
it synapses upon itself and is full of neurotransmitter-like psychedelic
compounds. It's like a thinking brain, yet it condenses itself down into
a thing three microns across, of which several million per minute can be
shed by a single carpophore. Spores are perfectly designed to travel
in space. They can endure extremes of temperature. Their color reflects
ultraviolet radiation. The surfaces of spores are composed of the most
radiation-impervious organic materials known.

This is an example of how an abstract notion like the world soul
can penetrate the upper levels of the world of biology and organisms.

RUPERT: Insofar as the mushroom and the human psyche have had a
symbiotic relationship, the mushroom-induced experiences in human
consciousness are in the morphic field of this symbiotic relationship.
Therefore, these experiences could be carried by the mushroom. The
mushroom spores would have to germinate somewhere, giving rise to
mushrooms on another planet. Then, when conscious organisms ate
the mushrooms, they would gain access telepathically to this whole
realm of the human psyche.

TERENCE: It's more than a symbiosis. Perhaps we are going to be down-
loaded, or uploaded. If we can find a way to download ourselves into the
mushrooms, then, when the planet explodes, it'll be a free tailwind to
our tour bus, you see.

RUPERT: I think we may have already downloaded ourselves into the
mushrooms.

RALPH: The world soul as mycelium: the pattern that connects . . .

In fact, the whole Earth may be chemically regulated through very
small molecules, aromatic compounds that are byproducts of the
metabolism of various species but that percolate out through the
environment and set up the ambience in which a lot of animal
and plant business is done.
—Terence McKenna

Just as the electromagnetic field is an interface between the matter
fields and the mental, psychic, and morphic aspects of ourselves as
human beings, so the electromagnetic field could be playing a similar
role in the mental structure of the soul of the world.
—Rupert Sheldrake

We have in our individual consciousness a particular affinity with
the electromagnetic field: electromagnetic perception, reception,
and so on, as epitomized by vision. The easiest thing to affect by the
phenomena of mind over matter should be the electromagnetic field.
—Ralph Abraham

LIGHT and Vision

RUPERT: I've been thinking about the connection between physical
light and the light of consciousness, the light of reason, and the light of
vision. It's not enough to say that one kind of light is physical and the
others are metaphorical. In some sense they must be aspects of each other

The key may be in the connection between light and vision. How
much do we understand about the nature of vision? Science doesn't tell us
much. It tells us that light moves from the thing we see, goes through the
eye, forms an inverted image on the retina, and causes patterns of elec-
trical and chemical activity to take place in the optic nerves and cerebral
cortex. Then, somehow, what we're seeing seems to spring up in a total-
ly unexplained way as a subjective image. This image is somewhere
inside the brain, yet it is subjectively experienced as outside the body.
If I'm looking at you, Terence, the light rays come into my eye, and then
I have a subjective image of you that is, according to the standard theory,
an electrochemical pattern in my optical cortex. This seems to me an
extremely peculiar theory of vision, because it locates the visual world
we experience inside the brain and not around us where it seems to be.

When I look at you, my image of you is interpreted by me; it's a
mental construct. I think this mental construct may not be inside the
brain but right where you are, namely, outside me, where my image of
you seems to be. The conventional idea that the image is inside my brain
does not correspond with my actual experience. It's just a theory, but
a theory of remarkable hallucinatory power because we so easily forget
it's merely a theory.

If in the process of vision there's an outward projection of images as
well as an inward movement of light, if I'm not just playing with words,
then there must be something moving out as well as light moving in.
If so, people or things might be affected just by being looked at.

The idea that something goes out from the eyes is a very old and
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found in implicit form all over the world in the fear and practices
associated with the "evil eye." These practices are indeed supposed to
involve the outward movement of influences from the eye to the thing
or person being looked at. There's also an enormous folklore in Western
culture about the sense of being stared at, the feeling people have when
they think they're being looked at, for example, from behind.

There's not been much empirical research on the sense of being
stared at: three published papers in a hundred years. It's a subject that
parapsychologists have ignored as well as psychologists. It could be,
oddly enough, the biggest blind spot in our view of the world, because
it could hold the key to an entirely new understanding of the relation-
ship between mind and matter, or spirit and body.

Let's assume for the purpose of discussion that it can be established
empirically that there is indeed such a thing as the sense of being stared
at. Some influence passing out through the eyes can be detected empiri-
cally. What kind of influence could this possibly be? What kind of in-
fluence could be moving outward through the eyes in the opposite
direction to the incoming light?

There are two possible ways of explaining such an influence.
First, this outward movement could be in a kind of mental field that is
somehow over and above the electromagnetic field. The electromagnetic
field sets off electrochemical changes in the brain, and somehow the
mental field organizes and meshes in and relates to it but is not itself part
of it. The mental field then projects outward, placing an image where
the person or object being viewed is actually located. Such fields would
extend all around us and be filled with our sensory experience of
the world.

In the second model, a more economical one, the outward projection
process takes place by a reverse movement through the light that is com-
ing into the eyes. In other words, when a photon of light comes in, it
corresponds to an antiparticle moving out, and these outward-moving
influences move along the exact track of the photons. These particles
are then associated with vision, perception, comprehension, and all
subjective experience of an object. They're the grok wave, if you like.
Since, physically speaking, from the point of view of a photon, no time
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where it arrives, between Subject and object, is instantaneous. In this
way vision may be very closely related to light.

It would be crude to say that the antiparticle of the photon is the
vision—the particle of sight—but this concept may be the missing link
between vision and light. It may simply be that the photon is in some
sense reversible, and that the electromagnetic field is in some sense the
field of vision as well.

TERENCE: There are a number of questions to be asked here. If the visi-
on were simply the antiparticle of the photon, the phenomenon of light
pressure should not exist. Since this phenomenon does exist and is well
studied, the vision must be more esoteric then an antiphoton.

RUPERT: This is no problem at all. The photon is a particle with physical
properties in the physical realm and therefore exerts physical pressure.
The vision has to do with conscious experience, with properties of mind.
It's moving in the opposite direction, and the sensing of being stared
at would be a sensing of those particles or waves impinging. There
would be a kind of pressure in that direction of the psychic kind.

TERENCE: A more elegant way to describe what you're saying would
be to call this reverse wave phenomenon a quality of the photon itself.
From the point of view of the photon, the travel time to and from its
destination is zero. Likewise, travel time from destination back to origin
is zero. Why not simply take a page from superstring theory and visualize
the photon as a kind of particle that is stretched in one dimension? It is
present at its origin and its destination simultaneously and thus able
to impart information at a distance.

RALPH: As hypotheses go, this is the big bag full. Certainly if it were
established that no effect could be produced in a person by looking at
them from behind, this discussion would be less interesting. There would
still remain some serious outstanding questions about the morphogenetic
fields proposed as the memory banks of the species in Rupert's books.

RUPERT: There would be questions as well about the relation of mind
and matter and the nature of vision and light.

RALPH: Nevertheless, it doesn't seem very useful to make the assumption

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that such an effect has been established. If it were, it would be the first of
all the various so-called paranormal phenomena of recent decades to
be validated and accepted. That would mean a lot of paradigms would
be shifted, and we would also be seeking explanations for telepathy,
remote viewing, clairvoyance, and other effects of vision at a distance.

RUPERT: Second sight.

TERENCE: I don't think it would automatically follow, if this effect were
confirmed, that people would think it had anything to do with eyes or
light at all. If we establish that attention can be felt across space, this
would be an establishment of telepathy. The felt sensation would not be
due to the fart that I'm looking at the back of someone's head, but that
I'm focusing my attention, which would be most effective when I really
bore in. The output of the optical system does not increase; it's the
output of the mental act of concentration that does.

RALPH: If we agree, then, that science would be stood on its head by the
discovery of one paranormal thing, which would make all paranormal
occurrences fair game, then we can assume that field theories would
expand considerably. Mathematical models for the morphogenetic field
would abound. Let's say we did have an experimental result in the labora-
tory demonstrating that a person can get someone else's attention by
staring at them, or by boring in, as Terence says. Would it really be
natural then to propose the electromagnetic field as an intermediary for
that influence? Or would we rather propose another field as a conceptual
model for the observed phenomenon?

Since ancient times, we've thought of mental, physical, and spiritual
phenomena as operating in different planes. The planes used meta-
phorically by the ancients of Greece and the rishis (seers) of India are
more or less what we're calling fields, and these thinkers found it
useful to separate these fields.

The electromagnetic field is physical—at least I think of it as
physical. I like the idea of a separate mental field. The mind somehow
follows the eye and extends itself so as to actually engulf the object being
viewed, to know it through intimate touch. Cognition is then a kind of
engulfing, like eating. This motion is visualized in the mental plane and

therefore belongs to a different field. I feel a bias toward this view.

On the other hand, if you could show that this telepathic trans-
mission from one person to another can be modulated electromagnetic-
ally by a magnet or filter, that would strengthen the argument for
the actual proximity of the two separate planes without, even then,
identifying them.

RUPERT: There's a part of me that thinks the separate field idea is more
attractive, but I've been leaning over backward to see whether we can
come to a new understanding of the electromagnetic field in which the
connection between vision and light is a very close one. Even if there
is another field involved, it must be in intimate resonance with the elec-
tromagnetic field. There's no doubt that changes in the brain are largely
changes in electromagnetic patterns, and there's scope for resonance
there, but the mental field may also resonate with the light that's coming
into our eyes. If this mental field is resonating with the electromagnetic
field of light, then indeed it will connect us through the light to the
objects we are seeing. Anything that resonates with the light that's in
between us will directly connect us via the light.

RALPH: I'm more comfortable with the wave rather than the particle
metaphor. Let's just think of waves. Here I am looking at waves on the
ocean, and I see that there's a rock out there. As the waves pass the rock,
their shape is changed: there is a hologram of the rock within the wave
that comes forward and crashes on the beach. Then there's a reflected
wave that goes back. I think the electromagnetic field, as physicists view
it, is something very much like this. Its mathematical model is a wave
equation. This seems to be a suitable medium for influence to go both
ways. But somehow I don't see it as having a rich enough structure to
model all mental processes.

RUPERT: I'm only modeling vision, so far.

RALPH: The visual part of the mental field may be a very thin slice of
the morphogenetic field that is in very close resonance with the electro-
magnetic field.

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idea of different levels—and think of the planes as fields, then we do
actually have a series of stratified levels.

First there are the quantum matter fields, which have to do with the
strong and weak nuclear forces in atoms and which determine the shape
and structural properties of atoms and molecules. They only work at
very short ranges.

Then there is the electromagnetic field, which is an organizing field
of more complex structures. The electromagnetic field actually holds
together atoms, molecules, crystals, and everything else. One could
say that the electromagnetic field is associated with the morphic fields
of molecules and crystals.

At the level of plants, there's a morphogenetic field of vegetative
growth that somehow interfaces with the electromagnetic field. In ani-
mals, over and above the morphogenetic fields are the fields of instincts
and movements; they organize and coordinate the activities of the
nervous system.

There are hierarchically higher planes above these, such as percep-
tual fields and fields of higher level understanding. There may be planes
of fields that are like the levels you spoke of, Ralph, but in a nested
hierarchy. The gravitational field embraces all; it's the universal field.

RALPH: The electromagnetic field, a constituent component of the mor-
phogenetic field or the world soul, should be utilized economically to
carry as much of the burden of explanation as possible. Certainly all of
the morphogenetic phenomena of crystals and so on are intimately
connected by resonance with the electromagnetic field.

TERENCE: There are not only electromagnetic fields but chemical fields.
I think that pheromones are vastly underrated for their organizing power
in biology and social systems. In fact, the whole Earth may be chemically
regulated through very small molecules, aromatic compounds that are
byproducts of the metabolism of various species but that percolate out
through the environment and set up the ambience in which a lot of
animal and plant business is done. Easily volatilized low-molecular-
weight compounds are probably behind a lot of the mechanisms for the
self-regulation of nature. If materialists can seriously argue that the pro-
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with seed crystals moving around from laboratory to laboratory on
chemists' beards, then they will certainly be in agreement that the per-
colation rates of nature are effective enough to move these control-
and message-bearing chemicals around everywhere.

RALPH: This idea is very supportive of Rupert's economy move, because
the olfactory bulb is nothing but a transducer of information from the
chemical field to the electromagnetic field. Just a small number of mole-
cules of a pheromone are enough to excite an identifiable electromag-
netic wave across the bulb, which is then identified by some kind of
associative memory living primarily in the electromagnetic activity of
the brain. This coupling shows that the electromagnetic field is an
intermediary between the chemical field and the mental field.

TERENCE: The chemical field is simply a higher-order manifestation of
the electromagnetic field, because most of these volatile compounds have
very electronically active ring structures.

RUPERT: It's a resonance phenomenon.

TERENCE: It is charge transfer and resonance, and doubtless bioelec-
tronic activity of other types. The most electronically active molecules are
the drugs, the pheromones, the growth regulators, and so forth.

RUPERT: These principles could also apply to hearing. When I see you,
you are localized somewhere outside me, where you are. If I hear you,
your sounds are also localized outside me. I don't hear sounds as if
they're arising inside my auditory cortex. I hear them as if they're rising
around me in three-dimensional space, and I can locate which direction
they're coming from.

This means we are not only surrounded by a visual perceptual field
that spreads out from us and fills the space of our perception, but we are
also surrounded by an auditory perceptual field. We are surrounded by an
ocean of fields.

RALPH: The ocean has infinite structure and complexity but nevertheless
could never function as a brain. The brain is, in the neurophysiology it
presents to the experimentalist, certainly much simpler than the mind.
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though all of its effects and patterns are manifest in the electromagnetic
field. Its structure is much richer than the electromagnetic field, which
can't control all these patterns without the brain's complex structure of
cortices, intercortical cells, chemical messengers, and ion channels.
Modeling the brain requires much more mathematical structure
than does modeling the electromagnetic field. The brain is much closer to
the physical universe than to the mental universe, so I think the electro-
magnetic field is too thin to occupy more than a fraction of the entire
structure of the field that carries recognition, memory, the ability to serve
in tennis and learn a new language and recognize haiku, and so on.

RUPERT: I think that somehow the brain plays an interface role between
the chemical and morphic and mental realms. The question that arises is,
How does the electromagnetic field interface with the quantum
mechanical fields that hold together the structures of atomic nuclei and
electrons in their orbits? These structures are actually maintained by
fields that in a sense are stronger than the electromagnetic field, for
they resist it in such a way that the positively charged protons bound
together in the nucleus do not fly apart through mutual repulsion, and
the negatively charged electrons do not plunge into the nucleus. The
electromagnetic field works around these matter fields as a more
subtle field.

RALPH: Perhaps the quantum mechanical field, not the electromagnetic
field, is the intermediary between the physical and mental planes.

TERENCE: But, Ralph, if you feel that the electromagnetic is inadequate
to what Rupert is asking of it, then you must be equally skeptical of the
morphogenetic field.

RALPH: No, I'm not skeptical. I think that what we're trying to do,
through the revision of our actual life experience, is make up a model
for some of the paranormal phenomena we've experienced that scientists
prefer to totally ignore. The electromagnetic field and the history of its
modeling, its hermeneutics, is an excellent case to imitate. What we are
trying to do is fashion a field concept around these phenomena. It does
seem very attractive to think of the electromagnetic field as some kind
of favored intermediary among all the physical fields.

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Perhaps the mental field will end up with a mathematical model that
is field theoretic, multidimensional, and coupled only to the electro-
magnetic field, which is coupled to all the other physical fields.

This is a combination model, a sandwich model, that might be
successful in explaining perception, cognition, and the idiosyncrasies of
time. There might eventually be a general relativity theory for the mental
field that would explain clairvoyance and so on. What we're talking
about now is the struggle to envision the coupling between the mental
field and the electromagnetic field, including wave metaphors, particle
metaphors, and so on.

RUPERT: That's right. My preferred model has always been one in which
perception and mental activity have a kind of fieldlike structure; it would
be a morphic field of some kind.

RALPH: We also ought to think about the possibility that these effects,
like the sense of being stared at, will not be confirmed in laboratories.
This is already the experience of many experimental efforts over the years
to confirm the so-called paranormal. Where there is evidence, it always
seems to be just the slightest bulge of the curve to the right or left of
absolute insignificance.

These paranormal phenomena, which we want to capture in a
model, don't seem to be very robust. They come and go, perhaps due to
the fact that they belong to the mental field and are very subject to noise
in that field. For whatever reason, they are very difficult to confirm,
and I'm thinking of that as being a kind of evidence in itself. On the one
hand, there is the very widespread impression that these things exist,
and on the other hand, there is the impossibility of confirming them in
the experimental paradigm of modern science. Somehow this suggests
to me the necessity for a thick model, a richer field in which to try to
do the modeling, where there are chaotic attractors everywhere and
no homeostasis or anything like that.

RUPERT: The reason I wanted to discuss this in the first place is that
I actually don't know what to think. Taking light and vision to be two
aspects of the same phenomenon leads us into a whole other area: the
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consciousness." For example, when we dream, we see things in a kind of
light. This light illuminates psychedelic visions, dreams, daydreams, and
all visual imagery that occurs with our eyes closed. There's some sense
in which our imagination, our image-making faculty, is self-luminous.

In the case of vision in normal physical light, the light comes first
and vision comes second. If you shut the light off, you can't see. But in
the visionary sense, vision itself may generate light, at least subjectively.
Visions are self-luminous. If someone has visions enough, according
to religious traditions, they start developing halos and their bodies
become luminous.

The point I'm trying to make is that if physical light has conscious
vision associated with it, then the reverse may also be true: conscious
imagery may have light associated with it.

TERENCE: Tryptamine hallucinogens certainly fill the head with light.
Serotonin, their near relative in brain chemistry, is transduced to mela-
tonin by a light-mediated reaction. In other words, light actually enters
through the eyes and follows a part of the visual pathway that branches
off and goes to the pineal gland, where photons work a chemical change
on serotonin and turn it into melatonin. These compounds are near
relatives of the tryptamines, which are the psychoactive compounds
occurring in psychedelic mushrooms. All this is going on in the pineal,
and it's all light-driven chemistry.

RALPH: Nevertheless, it seems that this kind of vision has nothing to do
with the electromagnetic field. Even though these neurotransmitters are
very photosensitive, the fact is that in the dark people have very bright
visions. Neurochemical activity in the visual cortex or somewhere else
mimics the effect of photons falling on the retina. In the alternation
back and forth between electromagnetic and chemical waves on neuro-
physiological levels, the psychedelics take over at some point and supply
what appears to be the result of a previous train of several reversals.
In the illumination on that level, the photons are replaced by this
other messenger.

It might be useful to think about the habits of electromagnetic nature
and the behavior of the electromagnetic field as evolving according to the
habits of the morphogenetic field. This would explain the resonance

between them: as above, so below. The m-field creates the em-field to
do its bidding.

RUPERT: Just as the electromagnetic field is an interface between the
matter fields and the mental, psychic, and morphic aspects of ourselves as
human beings, so the electromagnetic field could be playing a similar role
in the mental structure of the soul of the world. If there is a world soul
that permeates the entire cosmos, its bodily level may be expressed
primarily through the gravitational field while its mental level may be
expressed through some kind of interface with the electromagnetic field.
This would be a perfect medium for the world soul's omniscience and for
divine omniscience through the world soul. Everything that happens
affects the electromagnetic field; its holographic reality at any moment
is in exact correspondence with what's happening. The universal electro-
magnetic field is the interface of the world soul with the physical planes
of reality.

RALPH: I like the idea of the electromagnetic field being an ideal inter-
mediary positioned in a hierarchy of fields, much like the position of
our individual consciousness in the hierarchy of consciousness of the
world soul. We have in our individual consciousness a particular affinity
with the electromagnetic field: electromagnetic perception, reception,
and so on as epitomized by vision. The easiest thing to affect by the
phenomena of mind over matter should be the electromagnetic field.

RUPERT: There are a lot of people who think the universe is conscious
or that the soul of the world in some sense is perceiving what's going on.
There are many theological traditions of divine omniscience. By defini-
tion, any theology of divine omniscience requires the divine mind to
know everything. Knowing everything would include knowing all the
properties and states of the electromagnetic and gravitational fields,
so these would be essential aspects of divine omniscience.

I've found that when people think about divine omniscience, they
treat it as an entirely miraculous process, totally disconnected from any
kind of physical reality. However, divine omniscience must involve know-
ing from within—being within all things. Therefore, cosmic omniscience
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is like Newton's notion that the medium of divine omniscience was
Absolute Space, which he called the sensorium of God.

TERENCE: Why is divine omniscience a necessary concept? Can't the
universe get along just being partially aware of what's going on?

RUPERT: I think that it's intriguing to consider models of reality in which
there is a sense of knowing associated with the cosmos.

TERENCE: We all have a sense of knowing, but we're not omniscient.

RUPERT: There are two possible models. One is the standard model of
secular humanism, which postulates that our minds are the most ad-
vanced in the universe. According to this model, the rest of the universe
is essentially unconscious. Living organisms crawled out of the primal
broth in an inanimate universe and, through the miracles of random
mutation and neo-Darwinian natural selection, gave rise to organisms
such as ourselves with complex nervous systems that have the subjective
correlate of consciousness. Human consciousness emerged out of the
darkness of inanimate nature and is the highest consciousness that exists,
although it's conceivable that intelligent beings have evolved on a few
other planets as well.

The more traditional model derives human consciousness from a
much larger consciousness that pervades the cosmos, the Earth, and the
whole of life on Earth. In this model, our consciousness has come about
by a kind of diminution or descent of some higher kind of conscious-
ness rather than by an ascent from lower, ultimately unconscious matter.
We're a reduced form, a self-contracted version, of a higher consciousness
rather than an inflated version of a lower, animal consciousness.

I find it more reasonable to suppose that our minds are in touch with
larger minds, and that in many ways they are shaped by larger mental
systems of societies and cultures, ecosystems, Gaia, the galaxy, the entire
cosmos, and perhaps by a cosmic mind beyond that.

TERENCE: I follow you as far as a Gaian mind because it seems a bio-
logical object, not a theological premise. To hypothesize a mind of the
whole universe seems unnecessary and unlikely to be encountered.

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RALPH: Suppose there was another Gaia, another inhabited planet. It
would have its own Gaian mind.

TERENCE: The inhabitants would be citizens of the universe, even as
we are.

RALPH: Between our Gaian mind and theirs, a dialogue might be in
progress.

TERENCE: Nothing of this suggests theology.

RALPH: You're projecting theology onto it in association with the phrase
"divine omniscience." This is usually associated with Yahweh, the one
God of the Hebrews, and his divine omniscience. It's unnecessary to
make that association. As you've gone as far as the Gaian mind, you
can certainly go further. There is a hierarchy of worlds in the universe.

TERENCE: I'm not convinced that the hierarchy is minded at every level.
RALPH: That's the question. Does Jupiter have a Jovian mind?
TERENCE: Does the Solar System have a mind?

RUPERT: In any holistic model of reality, it seems entirely natural to
suppose that Gaia has a kind of mind, and that the Gaian mind is em-
bedded in the Solar System mind, and the Solar System mind embedded
in the galactic mind. These higher levels of mind and consciousness,
which may be hard for us to conceive of, seem likely to exist by a
simple logical argument.

TERENCE: But they may not necessarily exist in a hierarchical order.
After all, chipmunks are not small portions of whales.

RUPERT: No, no, no, but chipmunks are not inside whales. Chipmunks
are inside terrestrial ecosystems. Whales are in different ecosystems, and
both of these, the oceanic and the terrestrial ecosystems are part of Gaia.
The hierarchy is of more inclusive units; it is a nested hierarchy. The Solar
System is not on the same level as the Earth. It's a higher level of organ-
ization of which the Earth is part. The galaxy is a higher level of which
the Solar System is part.

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Figure 7. Nested Hierarchy. Diagrammatic representation of a nested hierarchy,
which could represent subatomic particles in atoms, molecules, or crystals, for ex-
ample; cells in tissues, organs, or organisms; or planets in solar systems, galaxies, or
galactic clusters.

RALPH: If you accept a Gaian mind, do you think there's a similar kind
of mind associated with Jupiter?

TERENCE: Yes. Planets are like animals.
RALPH: What about the solar mind?

TERENCE: Other places in the Solar System seem potentially more open
to the support of recognizable forms of life. The oceans of Europa, for
instance.

RALPH: Does something need recognizable life to have a mind? In the
Gaian mind, not only the so-called living beings have mind. The eco-
system has a mind.

TERENCE: But you don't want to define mind so broadly that it's no
longer recognizable as what we say when we ordinarily use the word.

RALPH: That's a problem, I agree. But all these different components of
the cosmos appear to fit exactly our model of thinking. To ask if some-

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Figure 8. Eye of Horus. The radiant "Eye ofHorus"on the Great Seal of the United
States, as shown on every dollar bill.

thing is conscious or unconscious is a different question that very much
complicates the issue.

TERENCE: I'm definitely into the notion that if you can't have an I-thou
relationship with it, it's fairly uninteresting to call it a mind.

RALPH: Do you think then that the Gaian mind would be dead if the
human species became extinct?

TERENCE: Not any more than someone would be dead if an acquain-
tance dies. I communicate with the Gaian mind.

RALPH: Then why can't Jupiter have a Jovian mind without the necessity
of microbes?

TERENCE: I grant that. It's these more diffuse, abiological systems . . .
the sun is a hard step to take.

RUPERT: The sun has a very complex resonant pattern of magnetic fields
with cellular vortices throughout its whole surface. It's a complex system
of probabilistic turbulences and resonances with complete polar rever-
sals about every eleven years, at the time of sunspot maxima. There's a

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physical interface—if a mind has to have a physical interface—that is an
electromagnetic one at that. The Solar System as a whole involves all the
planets, all the gravitational interactions, and the electromagnetic field
of the sun, in which everything is made manifest through light. This
field includes us sitting here in this room and everything else that's
illuminated by it.

If light and vision are associated, as we started this trialogue by con-
sidering, then all things illuminated by the sun may in some sense be seen
by it. The sun is in many cultures called an eye. In Malay, for example,
the word for sun is mata hari, "the eye of the day." On the great seal of the
United States, shown on every dollar bill, there is the Egyptian symbol
of the Eye of Horus—the radiant eye, the sun—both a seeing eye and
an emitter of light.

This brings us back to our starting point, the relationship between
light and vision. The Eye of Horus is one symbol of their intimate rela-
tionship, and it's no coincidence that it is one of the principal amulets
still used in Greece and other Mediterranean countries to ward off
the "evil eye."

In all times and all places, with the possible exception of Western
Europe for the past two hundred years, a social commerce between
human beings and various types of discarnate entities, or non-
human intelligences, was taken for granted.
—Terence McKenna

Entities exist in many realms. There are the realms of the dead, the
realms of dreams, and the realms of the imagination. There are also
the spirits of animals, the spirits of the Earth and solar system and
stars, and the angelic stellar intelligences. There are spirits of each
species of plant or mushroom, each with its own way of being,
its own way of seeing and experiencing the world, of participating
in the whole.

—Rupert Sheldrake

Traveling up the great chain of being toward the world soul, we may
get in touch with things that precede any capability of verbalization,
that seem to reach out for contact, that are learning to communicate
in a language we can understand.
—Ralph Abraham

TERENCE: This discussion will revolve around the exotic theme
of discarnate intelligences and nonhuman entities. These entities seem
to occupy a kind of undefined ontological limbo. Whatever their status
in the world, their persistence in human experience and folklore is
striking. The phenomenon of their existence is not something unusual
or statistically rare. In all times and all places, with the possible exception
of Western Europe for the past two hundred years, a social commerce
between human beings and various types of disincarnate entities, or
nonhuman intelligences, was taken for granted. This could have been
as simple as the Celtic farmer's wife leaving out a pitcher of milk for
the faery folk, or it could have taken more elaborate forms.

A second aspect of this theme is the tremendous variety of these
entities. We're talking about a kind of parallel taxonomy in another con-
tinuum in which there are djinns, afretes, water nixies, boulder grinders,
gnomes—and this is only the list within the context of the European
imagination. Once we add in the viewpoints of various cultures on the
potential for nonhuman life forms, we have a truly vast array of peculiar
creatures, all expressive of a very fundamental belief system that seems
to be inherent in the human condition.

Before we get into the history of this idea, it might be good to simply
review the logical options that are open to us in examining phenomena
of this sort. There are basically three. The first option is that these
entities are rare, but physical, and that they have identities somewhere
between the coelacanths and Bigfoot. They potentially could be imagined
moving from the realm of mythology into the realm of established
zoological fact, and this has in fact happened in some rather unspectac-
ular cases. This is by far the least interesting position. For example, the
yeti is a creature that refuses to declare whether it is simply a rare member
of the ordinary taxa of this planet or something quite different.

The second option that lies before us when we look at the onlologi-

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cal status of these entities is what I would think of as the Jungian
position. To demonstrate it, I'll simply quote Jung on the subject of
sprites and elementals. He calls them "autonomous fragments of psychic
energy that have temporarily escaped from the controlling power of the
ego." This is what I would call the mentalist reductionist approach to
discarnate entities and intelligences. It says that they are somehow
part and parcel of our own minds, their existence dependent upon our
conceiving them as objects in our imagination, however pathologi-
cally expressed.

RUPERT: In other words, this is the humanist position that all gods,
entities, and so on are simply projections of our own minds.

TERENCE: Exactly. The mental projection theory. "Escaped from
the controlling power of the ego"—it's a wonderful image.

The third and obviously most interesting possibility, but the
one fraught with argumentative pitfalls, is that these entities are
(1) nonphysical and (2) autonomous in their existence in some sense.
In other words, they actually carry on an existence independent of their
being perceived by human beings. This is the classical position of those
who have had the largest amount of experience dealing with these
entities: the shamans, ecstatics, and so-called sensitive types.

This position poses a tremendous barrier for the scientific and
Western mind. The eradication of spirit from the visible world has been a
project prosecuted with great zeal throughout the rise of modern science.
An admission that this project overlooked something as fundamental as
a communicating intelligent agency co-present with us on this planet
would be more than a dangerous admission of the failure of an intellec-
tual method. It would pretty much seal the bankruptcy of that method.

Science has handled this problem by creating a tiny broomcloset
within its vast mansion of concerns called "schizophrenia," deeming it a
matter for psychologists, not the most honored members of the legions of
the house of science. They have been told to "take care of this problem,
please." This is where we get the Jungian mentalist reductionist model.
What's interesting about this model, which is the reigning model con-
cerning these entities, is that its appeal is in direct proportion to a
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explain. In other words, anyone who has ever encountered a discarnate
intelligence knows that this is a woefully inadequate description of
the phenomenon.

Before I dose, I want to make one digression to drive home the
point that this phenomenon is not simply the pursuit of dilettantes or
obscurantists. If we examine the history of early modern science, we
discover that some of the major movers and shakers were being guided
and directed in the formulation of early science by discarnate entities.
John Dee, the great flower of Elizabethan science, actually had commerce
with angels and all sorts of entities of this type over decades. No less a
founder of modern scientific rationalism than Rene' Descartes was set on
the path toward the ideals of modern science by an angel who appeared
to him in a dream and told him that the conquest of nature was to be
achieved through measure and number. This enunciation, which is really
the battle cry of modern science, first passed through the lips of an angel!

There is also the well-known example of Kekule', the discoverer of
the benzene ring, who dreamed of the uroboric symbol—the snake
taking its tail in its mouth, the ancient symbol of eternity—and under-
stood that it was the solution to a molecular structure problem that he'd
been searching for. This aspect of science, the fact that much of its
premises have been transferred to mankind from the hidden realm of
higher intelligence, is completely suppressed in its own official story.
The official history tells the story of rational thought, of conquering
the dark world of superstition.

I think as we look at these entities and try to place them in the
context of human society in order to understand what they can do for
us, we need to look toward the shamanic model. Here the spirits are not
only identified but are seen as "helping," and a symbiosis is envisioned
between ourselves and an invisible world with higher intent. This is what
has been lacking in the expression of modern science as a social force.
It would be a good idea to inculcate within any future model of society
whatever wisdom and insight is represented by these forces.

It wouldn't be fair to close without mentioning that science's aversion
to the irrational is something it inherited from Christianity. All of the
voices of nature, of the sky and the Earth, were suppressed by Christian-
ity in favor of the mystery of the Trinity. I interpret what's going on

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at the present moment as a rebirth, or a rise in volume, of the voices of
the elementals. This seems to me part and parcel of the ecological crises
of the planet. The planet is attempting to speak. Everything that can
signify is reaching out toward humanity to try to reclaim us for the
family of nature from the rather pathological trip we've been on for a
long time. The elementals, the voices, the promptings of discarnate
entities are to be carefully considered and studied. We are wandering
in a wilderness, and they are a prompting voice.

RALPH: I'd like to focus on what you said about the suppression of the
irrational by science and the trinity of Christianity, which came directly
from the Neoplatonic tradition. I don't mean the Trinity of Father, Son,
and Holy Ghost, but the trinity of body, soul, and spirit. The body is
essentially Gaia of the Orphic trinity; it is ordinary reality, the physical
universe of matter and energy. The soul is the oversoul or world soul,
the parent of the individual souls that inhabit us. The spirit is a kind of
elastic medium between body and soul, like the logos or the morpho-
genetic field. Perhaps discarnate entities are evolving structures in the
spirit, which contains information and intelligence. We can identify this
as the top layer. There may be a hierarchy of these forms, which become
increasingly anthropomorphic as they descend from the soul level to
the body level. The spirit interpolates between the infinite complexity
of the world soul, which includes our minds, and the relative simplicity
of the world body, which includes our brains.

An abstract, cognizant entity may be impossible to know directly
because of the complexity of the multidimensional spheres of the world
soul. But when the entity structure descends, diffusing down through
spirit, it becomes increasingly simple and develops more and more
into cognitive forms that belong to the human mind in its evolutionary
resonance with morphogenetic fields. At these lower levels, the entity
is forced into representations that are culturally dependent such as
faeries, dakinis, elementals, and so on.

This is a Sheldrakian interpretation of the Neoplatonic trinity of
Plotinus. It has plenty of room for the plethora of entities within the
spirit, just as Rupert makes plenty of room for biological species in the
morphogenetic fields that guide biological morphogenesis. This model

allows for a spectrum of different forms of what are essentially the same
entities in different representations. Entities might be timeless in the
celestial sphere, but they descend into a lowest representation as a
cognitive map in our own consciousness, a map that depends on our
evolving paradigm, our worldview. For this reason, there are different
cultural flavors: elves, faeries, the pantheon of gods, and so on.

Early Christianity had this model. The Bible and Apocrypha are full
of angels, archangels, and other entities. I think the Neoplatonic model is
a context into which we could place all of these different representations.
We could include the saints of all the world religions, the local deities,
and all the multifarious representations of entities. The spectrum of
representations corresponding to a single entity is essentially what Jung
called an archetype.

TERENCE: Another set of questions is raised if you believe that these en-
tities are nonphysical and autonomous. Are they related to us beyond the
fact that we can share the same communication space? Are they some-
how related to our own existence, not in the sense of being dependent
upon it, but in some other way? All this talk of soul and spirit leads to
the question of the relationship of the dead to these discarnate entities.
Did you know that the dogma of purgatory in Christian theology
was not created by theologians in Rome but by Saint Patrick in an effort
to make Christian doctrine more commensurate with Celtic folk beliefs?
The faery faith that was in place when Patrick landed in Ireland held that
dead souls coexist with us invisibly in ordinary space and can be seen by
people who have a special ability. Saint Patrick turned that notion into
purgatory, and he was so successful in the conversion of Ireland that theo-
logians in Rome later wrote this concept into general church dogma.

RALPH: The Celtic people came from Eastern Europe, where they had
contact with the cradle of civilization, as it's called. The view of the
Underworld introduced into church canon by Saint Patrick already ex-
isted in Babylonian, Sumerian, and Ugaritic models. In the Sumerian
myth of Inanna and Dumuzi, for example, Inanna goes to speak with her
older sister, Ereshkigal, the queen of the Underworld. This story of
a journey to the land of the dead is very old and runs very deep. The
Underworld, as an aspect of the mythological side of birth and death, is

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part of one of the deepest layers of the mythic tradition. In a cave in Iraq,
the dead were buried with flowers for the afterlife before 40,000 B.C.

The Neoplatonic model of spirit filling the void between body
and soul may have a prehistory in which spirit was visualized as light.
Thus, representations of entities have occurred in metaphors of light,
particularized in whatever forms were available in a given culture.
I believe the myth of the Underworld as purgatory, which goes back
at least four thousand years to Sumer, is a displacement from the
void between us and the sky—from the middle realm of spirit between
the terrestrial and celestial spheres. Perhaps this has to do with the
patriarchal takeover and the creation of the unconscious, or perhaps
it has to do with our perpetual difficulty in dealing with death.

TERENCE: It occurs to me that all of these discarnate entities would be
but dancing hallucinations before us if not for their ability to address us
in languages that we can understand. Because they speak, we instantly
transfer to them a whole new power and importance. They are trans-
ferring information from somewhere to us, only a very small percentage
of which we are able to do anything with.

A traditional notion as it relates to elves and gnomes is that they are
artificers of some sort—master artisans working with metals and jewels.
Shamanism begins with a kind of deep penetration into early metal-
lurgy. In this process, the smith and the shaman are twin brothers linked
together in the extraction of energy from matter. This "whispering from
the demon artificers," as Jung put it, has led us into technological self-
expression and perhaps into self-expression per se.

The fact that these entities speak to us and we understand them is
very puzzling for the rationalist. Most modern thinkers label this dia-
logue "schizophrenia" and put it away in a small isolated room and
leave it there. However, a fair reading of the history of modern science,
as Ralph earlier pointed out, shows that the irrational, in an objectified
form, is very active in the process that we call history. We don't like
to admit it, because we're committed to an official philosophy of
reason and casuistry.

RALPH: There are two different theories going on here in terms of infor-
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example, the agricultural revolution traveled from Anatolia in 7000 B.C.
to France in 4500 B.C. to Britain in 3500 B.C. and so on. In the vertical
theory, future evolution and past history depend on inspiration. There is
a need to make shamanistic journeys, to travel vertically up into the
logos, the world of spirit, where information is stored and is in a process
of evolution. This information might be perceived as teachings from
elementals, as in the teachings about metalworking received from
faery folk.

In this vertical theory, we would expect the faery folk to show people
how to work bronze, for example, in many different places at the same
time. The Chalcolithic revolution could have been a simultaneous
metamorphosis throughout the inhabited world if enough people had
done vertical traveling. People like Descartes and Kekule and John Dee
were open to this vertical dreamworld, drawing information down from
the celestial spheres in order to reinspire their own generations with
this sacred knowledge.

These two models are compatible, and we may combine them into
a single map that portrays shamanic journeys vertically and cultural
diffusion horizontally. This map has two dimensions, whereas modern
science and its paradigm have only allowed for horizontal diffusion.

TERENCE: Why do you suppose modern science became so adverse to
these phenomena at the same time that there was such a zeal for the
cataloging and description of all the productions of ordinary nature?

RALPH: I don't know. There was a fall. It happened in the century
between John Dee and Isaac Newton in England. We can study every-
thing that went on and still not understand much of what happened in
this short period of time. None of the developments in the scientific en-
lightenment seemed to be explicitly adverse to angels. Newton believed
in astrological alchemy, which embraced the significance of the stars,
the hand of God, and the reality of the trinity of body, soul, and spirit.
Descartes and Newton, whom we blame for our mechanistic paradigm,
were full of the spirit. Of course, they dared not speak openly of these
things because of the terrorist repression going on around them in the
form of inquisitions, religious persecutions, and riots. Giordano Bruno
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hundred thousand people in Rome on Easter Sunday because he refused
to accept that the world was finite. Galileo was forced to recant for
similar reasons.

Somewhere in this story is the basis for the rejection of the spirit by
science. Why the church rejected it is another question.

TERENCE: The whole ambience of the world of Renaissance magic was
one of lining up resonant incenses, minerals, and colors to call down
stellar demons. Out of the Renaissance came modern science after the
pact was made.

RUPERT: Starting with the astronomical revolution.
TERENCE: Yes.

RUPERT: I think discamate entities are principally experienced by people
in their dreams. In dreams, we travel in strange realms, we meet people
who are dead or from different parts of the world, we enter strange
situations and have unpredictable experiences. Our dreams exist in a
kind of autonomous realm. The reductionist theory is that this realm is
part of our own psyche. The more traditional theory is that we travel out
of our bodies and enter what theosophists have called the astral plane.
Some people have dreams of angelic beings. Others have nightmares.
Heaven's pageantry covers many different regions. People throughout the
world believe these regions are autonomous and that when we dream
we travel out of our bodies into another realm.

Entities exist in many realms. There are the realms of the dead, the
realms of dreams, and the realms of the imagination. There are also the
spirits of animals, the spirits of the Earth and solar system and stars, and
the angelic stellar intelligences. There are spirits of each species of plant
or mushroom, each with its own way of being, its own way of seeing
and experiencing the world, of participating in the whole.

All of these things are part of the shamanic fauna: the wolf spirits,
crow spirits, other animal spirits, plant spirits, nature spirits, water
spirits, mountain spirits, tree spirits, and so on. If you become like a
hawk, you fly like a hawk, you see like a hawk, and you take on a hawk-
like quality of being. These sort of spirits are biologically grounded. The
angelic spirits are rooted in actual stars and planetary systems and

galaxies. The whole realm is a system of intelligences that in some sense
or another have a bodily aspect or were at one time in bodies, like
the departed.

Are all entities grounded in bodily aspects? Or is there a free-floating,
totally separate realm of entities of an entirely autonomous nature?

TERENCE: Perhaps everything at one point passes through matter, and
that passage allows its eternal existence in an animate but discamate
realm of pure form. In this sense, biological existence would be fraught
with the intimation of immortality.

RALPH: I would rather speak of animal souls than animal spirits, pre-
serving the concept of soul for the ultimate end of the great chain of
being. Spirit is a sort of elastic medium connecting it all. Spirit may be
the venue of our travels in dreams and shamanistic journeys because we
are unable to reach, in consciousness, all the way to soul. On the soul
level, everything is connected up and all is one, as in the oversoul of
Emerson and Thoreau. This great pancake in the sky participates in the
material world by ripping off a piece of itself to incarnate in matter. In
this view, which is the essence of the Hermetic tradition, everything
has soul and souls are permanent. Their occupation as animals or
rocks or trees is temporary.

In this Hermetic view, we may have the best chance to understand
ourselves and our history. History on the scale of the world soul is a
process of morphogenesis. Incarnation is the materialization of the
morphic form, the entity, in the body. It is the morphic resonance of soul
and body. Spirit is the abode of the entities, which are particulate aspects
of morphic forms. The interaction between these different planes has
been described as a resonant wave phenomenon.

When the whole biography of Gaia is seen in this Hermetic view,
it may be possible to get back in touch with soul and be guided into the
future. Traveling up the great chain of being toward the world soul, we
may get in touch with things that precede any capability of verbalization,
that seem to reach out for contact, that are learning to communicate in
a language we can understand. The corn circles in England, for example,
apparently are a kind of semiotic communication in which the corn-
fields, as organisms in the Gaian soul, are trying to speak to us. They

are developing an alphabet, little by little, just as we developed cunei-
form script.

TERENCE: If there were no wind . . . wouldn't that be wonderful, if you
were standing there watching and you could feel that the air was still
and yet you saw the corn plants lie down one by one? Then you would
understand who's behind this phenomenon. It's the Earth.

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persuasive school of rationalistic explainers believes they are—namely,
focused whirlwinds—they may still be the world soul communicating
with us. Suddenly, whirlwinds take on entirely new patterns of focus
and write new patterns. There's a spirit behind the whirlwinds that
really expresses something, as many traditions have always believed.

RALPH: Gaia uses whatever means of writing she can find. If wind is
necessary, if electromagnetic fields are necessary, then so be it.

TERENCE: The spiral form of the whirlwind is probably an extremely
complex organized entity, an expression of the ordered morphology of
the galaxy, resembling DNA. It is perhaps a higher form of life, but still
manifesting the spiral energy form. Just as early scientists were shaped in
their ideas by conversations with entities, perhaps we are on the verge of
some kind of communications breakthrough. Perhaps, in order to have
commerce and treaties and the exchange of patents with the invisible enti-
ties behind the corn circles, we need to bring to them all we've learned.
Perhaps, applying differential calculus and the theory of hyperfine
reactions, we may be able to work out a different treaty than we could
have when we only understood blowguns and canoe manufacture.

RUPERT: That's where mathematical modeling comes in.

RALPH: I have in mind a mathematical model for the world soul, the
spirit, and the mundane body that I would like to run as a video game
in arcades or at Disneyland. The bad habits of science in the past four
hundred years have had the unfortunate effect of depriving us of such a
mathematical model. Our understanding of the material world, Gaia,
or of the universe, the body of it all, is more advanced than our under-
standing of spirit, souls, faeries, or angels.

TERENCE: I wonder how accurate and reliable are the maps that oc-
cultists have accumulated in the past couple of hundred years. What
struck me, when I first read A.E. Waite's Ceremonial Magic, was the
classification of entities as lieutenants, generals, and majors. Each was
assigned different metals, each its own sigil, and each offered its own
dedicated incenses.

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spirit/logos/m-field as an elastic medium between body and the end of
the great chain of being, soul. His model was inherited from the revela-
tion to John Dee of art earlier magic, originally from the literature of
pre-Christian Jews and Chaldeans in Jerusalem and Alexandria. Ac-
cording to the Merkabah mystics, there are eight heavens that can be
visualized as concentric spheres. In the eighth heaven is God in his/her
own castle, and along the way there is, in odd places, a chariot with
wheels. Holding up the chariot is a being with four faces, one facing in
each direction. To enter the chariot there are four gates, each with eight
guardians, four on each side, and each with passwords and special signs.

RUPERT: What personal experience do we have of entities? Have you
ever met one? Could we try and meet one by carrying out an appropriate
ceremony or invocation in a suitably receptive pharmacological or
meditative state? If there are star spirits, as I believe is perfectly possible,
it's very likely that we can invoke them by various kinds of magic. What
kind of information would such beings impart? We know that ancient
civilizations had widespread beliefs about the particular properties of
various stars. Most accounts of angels describe them as innumerable as
the stars. The connection between angels and stars is very explicit in
the Christian tradition.

TERENCE: In a suitably receptive pharmacological state, the stage
suddenly becomes crowded with stellar demons, Earth angels, and what
have you.

RUPERT: Do we know for sure these are stellar demons? Have you
ever connected your experience of a demon with a direct look at his
resident star?

RALPH: We have this experience in a limited way. The sky is sort of like
a Rorschach test. There are a lot of dots that can be connected in many
ways. When there is a tradition of connecting them in a certain way, there
is an astrological tradition, a star mythology, an asterism. Pictographs,
petroglyphs, and cave paintings include drawings of asterisms. The Greek
myths are projected onto the celestial sphere in the asterisms we call
constellations. The word myth is from the word mythos, meaning "lyric"
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have in our conscious and unconscious lives through their secondary role
in rituals. The old rituals were actually means to bring the celestial forms
down from the soul level, through the spirit level, and into the body. This
is where star magic worked successfully to empower our evolution, and
this is as sure as we can be of the existence of star demons.

TERENCE: In our culture, we tend to move into cities that push nature
away from us. In our mental environment, we do the same thing. Most
people live within a very conventionalized set of notions that are deeply
imbedded in a larger set of notions. When we go to the physical edges,
such as desert, jungle, and remote and wild nature, and when we go
to the mental edges with meditation, dreams, and psychedelics, we
discover an extremely rich flora and fauna in the imagination. This realm
is ignored because of our tendency to see in words, to build in words,
and to turn our backs on the raging ocean of phenomena that would
otherwise entirely overwhelm our metaphors.

RUPERT: If we ask what has caused this blindness, we might answer that
it's the satanic spirit of science. In the seventeenth century, the spirit of
Satan was portrayed in Milton's Paradise Lost, with a whole taxonomy
of various demons and fallen angels that acted as malevolent powers,
such as Mammon, the demon of commercial greed. The primary sin
of Satan and of the other fallen angels like Mammon was pride, the
turning away from God toward their own self-sufficiency. This was the
beginning of the whole humanist illusion that turned away from the spirit
world and declared humans to be self-sufficient. From this point of view,
all gods, demons, and spirits are projections of the human mind, creat-
ing a kind of anthropocentric universe.

TERENCE: Humans are said to be the measure of all things.

RUPERT: This is humanism. To adopt the alternative tradition of
animism and to recognize the living spirits and souls of all nature is
profoundly repugnant to humanism, yet it is the common ground of all
human civilization, thought, and tradition. As in Goethe's Faust, the
paradigmatic scientist sells his soul to the devil in return for unlimited
knowledge and power. The guiding spirit of modern science, according to
the Faust myth, is a satanic demon, a fallen angel called Mephistopheles.

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How seriously do we need to take the idea that our whole society and
civilization is under the possession of such a spirit, worshiped through
money and power? Milton describes Mammon in Paradise Lost:

Even in heaven his looks and thoughts
Were always downward bent, admiring more
The riches of Heaven's pavement, trodden gold,
Than aught divine or holy else enjoyed
In vision beatific: by him first
Men also, and by his suggestion taught,
Ransacked the centre, and with impious hands
Rifled the bowels of their Mother Earth
For treasures better hid.

(1.680-688)

This is an accurate description of our whole civilization. How
much are fallen angels actually guiding and perverting the progress of
science and technology? Is a great war between the good and evil angels
being acted out on Earth? We hardly know how to think or talk about
such possibilities since they are so alien to the official, standard models
of Western history.

TERENCE: Returning to the subject of discarnate entities, I keep going
back to this thing about language. It's as though the field of language
itself must be prepared for communication with these beings. In the
West, there has been a peculiar stiffening of language against the ability
to express this kind of communication, but it is beginning now to
break down.

RALPH: It's true. We have to misuse our language even to talk about
these things.

TERENCE: Linearity in print and thought has made language unable to
deal with the invisible world in any meaningful way, except as pathology.
Now this invisible world is returning to the language through people
like us with one foot in each world.

The human mind is haunted both by the many presences sensed
within the self and by a confused sense of self. Wherever we turn in the
world of nature and the psyche, we encounter life, animation, and a

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willingness to communicate that confounds the fragile pyramid of
boundary consciousness and human values that have emerged over
historical time through the suppression of our intuitions.

I've taken the position that these entities we encounter are
nonphysical and somehow autonomous. Ralph, as I understand him,
accepts this view but anchors it into the Neoplatonic trinity of body,
soul, and spirit. From this point of view, these entities are inhabitants of
the spiritual domain of the logos. They are the logos become self-
reflecting and articulate. Rupert correctly points out that it's in the realm
of dreams that we most commonly encounter entities, and he further
suggests that behind these entities is the controlling agency of the world
soul. His notion is that the world soul actually communicates to human
beings through the production of forms that we interpret as the denizens
of an otherwise invisible and mythological world.

Our collective conclusion seems to be that nature, both in whole
and in many parts, is magically self-reflecting and aware. Encountered in
its most rarified expression, the world speaks to us, and we, as scientific
rationalists, are confounded. Nevertheless, it is for us to mold our models
and theories to the world as it presents itself in immediate experience, not
as we would have it in some grand and sterile abstraction. The elves and
gnomes are there to remind us that, in the matter of understanding the
self, we have yet to leave the playpen in the nursery of ontology.

By giving people a less restricted choice of addictions, we can
cause some growth in consciousness and some shrinkage of the
unconscious. I think it's not necessary to make the whole uncon-
scious become conscious. If we can't undo this bifurcation in which
the mental curtain developed, we can at least rearrange the fur-
niture a little bit.

—Ralph Abraham

It seems that the focus of attention or awareness is quite narrow. ...
It is as if sensory awareness takes place on the surface of a largely
unconscious system. On the shimmering surface we notice differ-
ences, but below the surface is habituation and unconscious
habit. This is at the heart of all living systems.
—Rupert Sheldrake

The reclamation of the unconscious has to do with directing
attention toward understanding time. Time is apparently the body
of the unconscious.
—Terence McKenna

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The Unconscious

RALPH: I would like to start with three great bifurcations in the
history of consciousness. The first is hypothetical: the unconscious was
created one afternoon by a bifurcation in the collective mind. At this
point, a curtain was created that divided the conscious from the uncon-
scious forever, like an Iron Curtain in the species mind. The second great
bifurcation in the history of consciousness was the Fall from the Garden
of Eden, which was the origin of evil. The third great bifurcation was
the defeat of the dragons of chaos by the gods of law and order.

With respect to the first bifurcation, we could speculate that in the
prehistoric period the conscious mind developed from the unconscious
mind. Or, it may have been the other way around—that both existed
always and there was never any division.

However, for the sake of discussion, let's say that consciousness
existed always and that the unconscious was created by a recent bifur-
cation, a prehistoric consequence of a natural law of evolution. Because
of peculiarities in the evolution of the conscious mind, more and more
perceptions were regarded as illegal in the context of culture and civiliza-
tion and the current worldview. In time, as more things from above the
curtain were forced below it, the unconscious continued to grow as the
conscious mind correspondingly shrank. In this continuing evolution
and growth, there were further bifurcations, and all of the fundamental
deck furniture of the unconscious, including dreams and archetypal
symbols, emerged.                               

One virtue of this theory is that it allows us to see our individual con-
scious minds evolve from a universal conscious mind. We may then speak
of the consciousness of animals, of plants, of Mother Earth and Father
Sky, and of the whole nuclear family of all and everything.

The second bifurcation dealt with the creation of evil, the expulsion
of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, the fall of Lucifer, and
the empowerment of the negative. Many dichotomies emerged from

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Figure 10. The Three Great Bifurcations of Cultural History.

unity by a process of mitosis, or bifurcations, in the world of ideas.
We could try to relate these events to each other in time, or in space,
or as waves, or as a holistic space/time pattern.

Number three was the bifurcation of chaos and order in the cosmos.
As mentioned previously, this horror story was ritually enacted during
the Babylonian New Year festival. The king played the role of Marduk,
who divided Tiamat, the dragon goddess of chaos, in two with a sword.
She opened like an oyster shell, forming the sky and the Earth.

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These three bifurcations are related. When the myth of Marduk
became dominant, a negative charge was put on the serpent image. The
snake is an essential symbol of Mother Earth herself. The consciousness
of Gaia came to be associated with Hades, the underground, death, evil,
Pluto, and so on. The repression of chaos reinforced the bifurcation in
consciousness that gave us the unconscious, which has gained ever since.
Thus, the human species has been heading more and more into the evil,
the demonic, and the evolutionarily unsuccessful forms of society.

This is the chaos theory of the bifurcation of mind or the creation
of the unconscious.

TERENCE: What do you think caused this bifurcation?

RALPH: I don't know. Historically, there is this horrific story, the Baby-
lonian creation myth—a myth as lyric opera and ritual. This myth had
a Sumerian precedent. Towns in the early stages of the urban revolution
coalesced around different gods and goddesses. The form of a goddess
or god was materialized in the form of a city. This was the origin of the
sacred city. There was therefore a morphogenesis in the full complex of
population movement, urban technology, city design, religion, ritual,
and so on. The successful god or goddess concepts were attractors that
created cities. These cities resonated with other cities, and through this
syncretism empires were created.

There are books about the serpent and dragon images in mythology.
Many cultures had dragon images, and they were all associated with
chaos and the Goddess. Then, suddenly, there was Saint George killing
the dragon and Saint Michael with his foot on the dragon's throat. All
this energy was given to killing dragons in Babylon, in Canaan, in
Celtic mythology, in Christianity, and in science,

I think it's possible that this particular bifurcation had to do with the
patrilineal necessity of knowing the identity of a child's father and with
the rejection of the Dionysian ritual in which sexual license was an
important part. The patrilineal structure involved the creation of the
nuclear family, which brought about the rejection of the Goddess,
the dragon, and chaos. Now, I think it may be important to undo this
repression and have Saint George and the dragon get it on together in

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a May Day celebration where Dionysian elements are accepted.
RUPERT: So you're in favor of a kind of "fall" theory of the unconscious.

RALPH: I'm proposing it for discussion. I'm trying it out. It's an hypo-
thesis which, if we accept, we could seek also to escape. Somehow, we'd
have a mechanism to escape because we'd have a historical map of the
creation itself.

TERENCE: How would this escape happen?

RALPH: We could try to bring unconsciousness back into consciousness.
We could take the deck furniture from the lower floors of the boat back
up to the main deck where it belongs. In chaos theory, which is the
current paradigm shift, science, which is now the main temple of law and
order, has to eat humble pie and accept chaos again. This is apparently
happening more or less accidentally. Suppose we were having this talk
in 1960, and we decided we would try to do something intentional that
would restore Tiamat to her throne. We'd hunt around with the computer
people, we'd locate a closet chaos pioneer like Ueda or Lorenz, and we'd
popularize his model. We would purposefully revolutionize the sciences
in 1963 instead of waiting for this to happen spontaneously in 1973.

I'm not recommending an intentional intervention. I'm saying that
bringing some of these things into consciousness would have a big effect
on future generations. This discussion alone could be all it takes, you see,
to bring something back from the basement and restore it to conscious-
ness, starting a new upward spiral somewhere in the evolution of spirit.

TERENCE: The suppression of psychedelics occurred at the same phase
because orgies driven by the psychedelic style of religious celebration
completely frustrated the desire to identify male paternity.

RALPH: The rejection of psychedelics and shamanism could be likewise
associated with these three bifurcation events. Only so-called primitive
societies have shamans and perform psychedelic rituals on a regular
basis. Their survival in fringe societies is a vestigial tail. They are sur-
vivors of the fall, of the loss of a whole complex of ideas.

TERENCE: The shift from the psychology of a psilocybin-mushroom
cult to the psychology of an intoxicating-mead cult, for example, would

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have led precisely to the difference in interpersonal dynamics that would
have shifted a group from partnership relationships to patriarchal rela-
tionships. I think that, over time, the mushroom-using people in the
archaic Sahara were transformed unwittingly into a mead cult by a scarci-
ty of mushrooms and by the simultaneous recognition that honey was the
potential preserving medium for the mushrooms. The effort to preserve
mushrooms in honey and to concentrate the use of them into occasional
large festivals eventually evolved into the mead festivals, where mush-
rooms became no more than a flavoring in mead and ultimately became
no more than a memory.

RALPH: First the mead, then the patriarchy?

TERENCE: The patriarchy and the mead evolved together, along with
the concern for male paternity and the suppression of orgies. The critical
decision was the choice between fun, on the one hand, and the full
knowledge of the flow of one's genes, on the other. Once male paternity
became an important issue, then the concept of "me and mine" came
into existence: "my women," "my children," "my food," "my weapons,"
"my land." This is the attitude that the orgiastic, psychedelic, boundary-
dissolving mushroom religion held at bay.

RALPH: This is an alternative to the theory that patriarchy came about
because of a wave of invading Kurgens.

TERENCE: It would have happened quite naturally, beginning with a
flourishing mushroom cult on the plains of Africa and the gradual
climactic drying that created the seasonality of the mushroom. There
were wonderful huge seasonal celebrations, and the psychology of the
group remained basically intact. Then, as the drying continued and
the waterholes became further and further apart, the need to preserve
the sacrament and to spread it ever more thinly became strong. Deserti-"
fication of the Sahara also occurred through overgrazing by patriarchal,
ownership-oriented pastoralists who worshiped the male thunderbolt
god. The actual use of the land, in the-eradication of partnership-
oriented hunter-gatherers, created a desiccated environment unable to
produce mushrooms. Thus, the psychedelic mysteries slowly faded from

The Unconscious

the occupied zone of the culture using them, and an only partially satisfy-
ing substitute took their place.

RALPH: Booze.

TERENCE: They went from an ecstatic Goddess cult of orgy to a
drunken revelry of warriors and whores.

RALPH: It's a two-phase theory: the psychedelic partnership phase
and the alcoholic dominator phase. These are drug-driven phase trans-
formations repeating themselves in an endless flip-flop in the history of
consciousness. There is historical evidence of this in Crete, where in
historical times there was the debasement of Dionysian rituals into
alcoholic revels.

TERENCE: Dionysius turned into Bacchus. The early Bacchus was a
frightening figure. His practitioners fell into such frenzies of ecstasy that
they were charged with devouring their own children. The late hairy-
footed, lascivious Bacchus is simply an image of alcoholic consciousness
made concrete.

RALPH: Orpheus was a reformer who was trying to get the Dionysian
religion back on the psychedelic track, away from booze. Such a reform
happened again with Pythagoras, then with Buddha, and so on.

If we take this two-phase theory seriously for a moment, and we
favor one phase more than the other, then we would be inclined to seek
the mechanism of phase transition; an example of such a mechanism
would be turning on the heat under water so that it will boil. This theory
explains why alcohol is legal and marijuana is not. There is a self-
preserving, phase-maintaining function within the alcohol phase.

TERENCE: It reinforces male dominance. If we analyze what alcohol
does pharmacologically, we find that it actually diminishes sensitivity to
social cueing. This is a technical way of saying that when you drink
alcohol, you turn into a bore and a libidinally driven oaf. Your normal
social judgment is impaired and you're prepared to make a sexual con-
quest. Most of the sexual neurosis of Western civilization can be traced to
incidents of, early sexual imprinting in the presence of alcohol. Alcohol
is so spun into our simultaneous terror and attraction for the sexual

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experience that it has become an invisible part of our cultural legacy.
It's a matter of the way in which our relationships to the material
world, especially drugs, promote or retard the expression of what we're
calling the unconscious. One of the things that repels us all about
drug abuse is that it is unexamined behavior. When we are addicted
to heroin or television, we turn ninety percent of our lives into an
indwelling in the unconscious.

RALPH: I feel that I'm unable to become totally unaddicted. I don't have
to be addicted to alcohol. I can replace one addiction with something else.
I can actually choose, reclaiming free will without rejecting addiction.

TERENCE: This is the kind of creature we are. The addiction to addic-
tions that spawned this itch originally was no addiction at all but rather
our natural connection into the hierarchy of Gaian information that was
accessible to us when the nature religions were freely practiced. A sacra-
ment is not a symbol. The day people were sold on the notion that a sac-
rament was a symbol, the umbilical connection to the logos was severed,
and history was run off track.

RALPH: By giving people a less restricted choice of addictions, we can
cause some growth in consciousness and some shrinkage of the uncon-
scious. I think it's not necessary to make the whole unconscious become
conscious. If we can't undo this bifurcation in which the mental curtain
developed, we can at least rearrange the furniture a little bit. What else
can be done, besides diminishing alcoholism, to advance consciousness,
develop spiritual telescopes to look into the unconscious, and regain
our wisdom?

RUPERT: I don't think the problem is that the unconscious is the result of
a kind of conspiracy or fall but that nature works through the formation
of habits. We know from our own experiences that habit formation
involves habits becoming unconscious. We experience habituation, for
example, when we go into a room with a funny smell. After a while, we
stop noticing the smell. The same applies to background noise: we get
used to it. We share with the entire animal kingdom, right down to the
level of unicellular organisms, this tendency to become unaware of most
of the environmental stimuli acting upon us.

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It seems that the focus of attention or awareness is quite narrow. In
general, what sensory systems do throughout the animal kingdom is
sense differences—in smell, temperature, pressure, or texture. It is as if
sensory awareness takes place on the surface of a largely unconscious
system. On the shimmering surface we notice differences, but below the
surface is habituation and unconscious habit. This is at the heart of all
living systems.

I don't think there's a kind of sinister conspiracy of the unconscious.
Perhaps a sharper awareness of the interface between the conscious
and unconscious developed at one time—through mystical experience,
psychedelic visions, and shamanic journeying—revealing realms of
experience of which we are not normally aware. We can bring other
realms of experience into consciousness through ritual practices such
as the annual cycle of festivals found in all religions. Through ritual prac-
tices still found almost everywhere, even in the West—including Jewish
festivals, the Catholic calendar of saints' days, and major festivals like
Easter and Christmas—different dimensions are brought into awareness.

We can't be conscious of everything all the time. We have a limited
focus of attention.

TERENCE: You're saying a calendar can be an engine for illuminating
the unconscious?

RUPERT: Yes.

RALPH: I think the theory of habituation is a good model. In it, the
mind is viewed as essentially unconscious, and consciousness is seen as
a little window that can be directed at will--by ritual or voluntary
choice—over a certain part of the unconscious, which would then
become conscious for a day. The unconscious I spoke about before is a
region of the whole realm of consciousness whose contents have become
unavailable because they were declared illegal at a certain time in history.
It's not possible to rove the window over this region any more.

RUPERT: Perhaps because it doesn't have its day. The orgy principle had
its day, and it still does in the Hindu festival of Holi: people get high on
cannabis) throw colored water at each other, have priapic processions,
and overturn the social order. Similar principles are at work in the

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Catholic world through Carnival or Mardi Gras. However, these festivals
were suppressed in Protestant countries as a result of the Reformation.
Chaos in the West no longer has its day, nor does the Great Mother
have hers.

RALPH: By focusing our attention through special days and rituals, we
can work at maintaining our consciousness much as we work at main-
taining our garden. This is a good theory of the importance of holidays,
but there is still something wrong. Every year Christmas is repeated, but
people have completely forgotten its archetypal significance, even with
the full regalia of angels on the trees and so on.

RUPERT: The archetypal delight of Christmas is experienced by young
children waking up on Christmas Day and seeing stars and angels and
presents, with glittering frost and fresh snow in the background. For
them, the magic of Christmas works. It is, after all, a young children's
festival because it celebrates the birth of the sacred child. This is the pole
it touches in all of us: the sacred child. I think it still helps to maintain the
basic pulse of the sacred year, however sluggishly, in a lot of people.

TERENCE: Notice that what you are suggesting is that the reclamation
of the unconscious has to do with directing attention toward under-
standing time. Time is apparently the body of the unconscious.

RALPH: Time is the mediator of differences. Time is the enemy of
habituation. Time is the strategy for subverting sensory inhibition.

TERENCE: Time is the theater of habituation as well. Time and atten-
tion used creatively can banish the unconscious.

RALPH: What about the dark part of the unconscious, over which it's
illegal, difficult, perhaps even impossible to fly our plane to look
out the window of consciousness? The experience of the window of
consciousness is our heritage of perception, but it has been denied to us
on the basis of religious authority and dogma maintained by ritual.
We can't reclaim a dark part of our unconscious simply by a willingness
to devote one day to attention, to variation, to observance of a difference,
or to amplification of this part of the unconscious. It has just become
unavailable.

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Denial, I think, is a recent phenomenon, and it is a serious danger
for evolution because, once an experience is denied, evolution is then
shunted off its track. This kind of unconsciousness, I still think, was
created at a certain time in history by a bifurcation. Somewhere around
six thousand years ago, there was a special new mode of thought in-
volving the prohibition of valid experience. This was the real fall, on the
basis of which we now have real evil as a problem in life. The destruction
of integrity and the death of nature are new problems with a history that
has to do with denial.

After something has become not okay, it's very hard to reclaim it. For
example, chaos is considered bad, and it's very hard to undo this damage.

TERENCE: What I hear you saying, Ralph, is that some fundamental
boundary must be breached or dissolved in a dramatic way to confirm
that we've entered a new phase of the human adventure. Perhaps the
revolution in media and information technologies is the transparently
transforming solvent that, by informing us concerning the real options
available to human beings, can get us off the limited Western approach.
It's important to create and make strong our mental community.

RALPH: I think it's possible to raise the frequency, to lighten the dark,
through prayer. I'd like to see a resurrection of magic. Hopefully, many
places that have fallen into disuse, where the garden is overrun with
weeds, can be sweetened with banishment ceremonies, prayers, and so
on. We need to learn this technology—to connect the star magic of the
Stonehenges and astrology, for example, with the progress of daily life
and political events.

We have great powers that aren't being used because we don't believe
in them. The unavailable unconscious contains enormous power for
doing good and can provide us with our only means for recovery.

The resacralization of space and time involves not only recognizing
the sacredness of churches and cathedrals and traditional festivals,
but recognizing the importance of sacred places everywhere and
of every kind. .. . This involves a much more animistic version of
Christianity and Judaism, a process I've come to think of as
the greening of God.
—Rupert Sheldrake

We need a unifying principle and attractor. The essence is an actual
connection to the sacred. I don't think we can have an archaic revival
by simply going backward. We have to carry our archaeology of
knowledge to the point where we understand the essence of what
took place in the past and then adjust it into modem forms.
—Ralph Abraham

The purpose of science should be understanding, not only technique.
We need to hold back while we assimilate what we know at our
current level, not push relentlessly deeper into the application of
techniques. That is rape. That is violation.
—Terence McKenna

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The Resacralization
of the World

RALPH: The story of my religious training and upbringing may
be appropriate to introduce our discussion on the resacralization of
the world.

My parents both came from Jewish backgrounds. My mother was
a regular temple visitor in her town until she married. My father had no
connection with Jewish traditions since his parents relocated from New
York to the backwoods of Vermont in their youth. There was never
mention of Jewish religious stuff in our house, as I think he developed
an aversion to organized religion of any sort. Occasionally, circumstance
would bring me into church while a service was going on, and I would
look around at the other people who bowed their heads when told to,
thinking, "I'm the only one who's not casting my eyes down; I'm the
only one who doesn't believe this stuff."

My father developed a kind of religion of his own, centered on the
family and on a concept of love that was fairly abstract. He used to say
that love was everything. Explicitly, he thought it was better to start
practicing religion when you were an adult, when you could acquire
whatever religious training you wanted, considering all options with an
open mind. I never considered all with an open mind, nor did I decide
whether to have one or none; I just didn't bother to think about it.

Practically everybody I knew either went to some kind of church or
had been brought up within one and had formally rejected it. From them
I got no evidence of any sacred knowledge outstanding in any of these
churches. Eventually, the sixties happened, and with LSD I had what
I would now identify as my first religious experience. Immediately,
I thought, as did many people in those days, that this was a religious
experience in the true sense of religion.

Reading history, I came to see that there had indeed been sacred
knowledge in the churches of Europe in the past. It was embodied in
architecture and music and had become extinct in the Western world

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only recently. But the sixties were very preoccupied with politics, so these
were just idle thoughts at the time.

When I got to India in the seventies, I found that the extinction of the
sacred from organized religion hadn't occurred there. Instead, I found a
living tradition that I recognized as sacred.

When I returned from India to California, about the time I met
Terence, I began to think there might be a way to revitalize the Western
tradition. Other people spoke about this idea: those concerned with yoga
and with the adepts of the Middle Ages and Renaissance, Theosophists,
and students of alchemy. In 1972, there was a distinct separation between
political activity and concerns about the loss of the sacred from religion.
In the course of time, it was suggested that a root cause of the political
problems of the world was the loss of our connection to the sacred,
within and without organized religion. When this connection was
made, political activity had to address it.

People have different theories of evil and the causes of global prob-
lems. Because of the strength of my direct experience with the sacred,
desacralization became and remains my favorite theory. I believe that
the most important activity to save the world, or at least to move toward
hope in that direction, is to recreate for some larger portion of humanity
the lost thread of our connection to the sacred. This is the program that
I call "the resacralization of the world."

As far as I know, there are only a few proposals for direct action in
this direction. One is the resumption, in everyday society, of rituals
that still exist for some native peoples—rituals such as tribal shamanism.
Another is the revitalization of existing religion by attracting people back
to the wonderful churches of the world. These churches have not only the
architectural shape most appropriate for the communication of the sacred
thread, but they have tradition as well, which is the morphic field of our
connection with the sacred. We can reconnect the missing link through an
archaeology of knowledge. We can attempt to find when and for what
reason the light went out and then attempt to reforge the link.

A third proposal is for people to remain within the context of
modern society but outside the organized churches, replacing churches
with an equivalent institution based perhaps in the sacred arts of music,
architecture, and painting.

A fourth idea, to which we all may have given too much attention, is
the revitalization of science. This proposal acknowledges that science has
replaced traditional Christian mythology with its own substitute mythol-
ogy and that weaknesses in this mythology may be at the root of evil.

A fifth idea has to do with the reestablishment of the partnership
society. The work of people like Riane Eisler suggests that the desa-
cralization and devitalization of the church and organized religion is
associated with the embodiment of patriarchal values within organized
religion. This is a corollary of the mechanistic tendency of dominator
societies.

I don't think everybody should take psychedelics or have a shaman-
istic experience in the Amazon jungle to rebuild their connection to
the divine. However, churches and their rituals could be reinvigorated
if a certain class of priesthood specialized in maintaining this kind of
direct, Gnostic connection. The weakness of scientific mythology can
then be fixed by somehow incorporating the scientific worldview into
the expanded church view. There would be some sort of syncretism
between the neopagan and the Judeo-Christian traditions, repairing
the patriarchal weakness and restoring revelation with the inclusion
of a new sacrament.

In short, I'm looking for something beyond the understanding
of the virtues of the past. I'm looking for the basis of a program in the
present, with the resacralization of art and music as an integral part
of the program.

TERENCE: You're talking about an archaic revival: the resumption
of ritual, the revitalization of existing religion!, and feminism and the
revitalization of partnership in there somewhere. Sometimes you seem to
be talking about a revitalization of the forms of the fifteenth and six-
teenth centuries, and sometimes about forms from much further back.
All this business about music and churches is relatively recent.

RALPH: This loss has been going on for ten thousand years. What has
been lost can't be revived in its original form. We may have to use video
and film technology. The value of getting true partnership-society values
into the church is that we wouldn't have to replace the church just be-
cause it's been on the wrong track for four thousand years.

RUPERT: Practically all of the Gothic cathedrals are still functioning:
they still have sacred chants going on every day, and prayers are offered
in a regular cycle, just as great temples have always done. These con-
tinuously active, sacred places have been sacred for centuries. The great
cathedrals, like temples, are models of the cosmos. In the artwork of
most Gothic cathedrals there are green men: mysterious vegetation gods
that burst out everywhere with leaves coming out of their mouths. Many
of the great cathedrals are dedicated to Our Lady, who in the Middle
Ages was often seen as Wisdom, or Sophia. They have in their windows
geometrical designs: threefold, fourfold, and fivefold mandalas. There
are rose windows with extremely complex psychedelic designs and
colors. By participating in the spirit of these cathedrals, we can recon-
nect with the sacred places of Europe.

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of festivals and the sacralization of time. Some Jewish people I know are
revitalizing the tradition of the Sabbath, starting on Friday evening with
the lighting of the candles and the invocation of the Shekinah, the
feminine presence of God in the home, in the world, and in embodied
existence.

The sacralization of time is a way of reconnecting ourselves with
religious traditions. I think the most important aspect of this process—
because I agree with Terence about archaic revival—is to find the
pre-Christian roots that underlie the timing and quality of existing forms
and festivals. We need to ground the new religion in the old. In the
present tradition, there's a continuous living strand that goes right back
to the pre-Christian shamanic societies of Europe and the pre-Jewish
shamanic societies of the Middle East.

This is a connection that can still work; it works for me. Obviously,
the resacralization of space and time involves not only recognizing the
sacredness of churches and cathedrals and traditional festivals, but
recognizing the importance of sacred places everywhere and of every
kind: holy wells and springs, sacred hills and groves, ancient sacred
caves, and the archaic sacred places of the megalithic age. This involves
a much more animistic version of Christianity and Judaism, a process
I've come to think of as the greening of God. Theologians like Matthew
Fox have exposed a hidden strand within the Judeo-Christian tradition
that can authenticate and feed a new burgeoning of Christian and
Jewish animism.

RALPH: But is it possible? I'm not sure.                                 1

TERENCE: Marshall McLuhan said it was inevitable. He felt that the
shift from a literate phonetic-alphabet culture, which existed for us
as recently as the 1940s, to the electronic culture would effect the ratio
of the senses. The new ratio created by electronic media would be
similar to that which existed in medieval Europe before the invention
of printing. He based this notion of "electronic feudalism" on the idea
that before the linear uniformity of mechanical print we had to look
at each individual manuscript, because every manuscript reflected the
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read. Reading is a very generalized function in which we don't actually
study each e and l.

With television and electronic media, we are again returned to the
situation where we must look. We must assemble a gestalt, an image;
we cannot simply read it. McLuhan felt that the consequences of this
shift in the sense ratio would be global and immense—that it would
cause the fragmentation and dissolution of the nation-state, which we
certainly seem to be seeing in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union.
He said it would return people to a kind of homebound pietistic funda-
mentalism—homebound because electronic media brings informa-
tion everywhere. McLuhan predicted that all of these factors would
conspire to create an era in which the Gothic model would be very
strongly expressed.

From my own point of view, in my theory of the time wave, I see
this coming in the mid-nineties and expect this period of time to have as
many ambiguous aspects as did the Middle Ages. On the one hand, there
was the glory of the Gothic cathedrals, and on the other hand, it was a
time of wandering flagellants, pestilence, bigotry, suppression of women,
hatred of outsiders, insularity, provincialism, barbarism, and so forth.

I think we're in an excellent position to experience something very
much like the Gothic revival you're advocating. The important thing
is to humanize the impulse.

RALPH: We need a unifying principle and attractor. The essence is an
actual connection to the sacred. I don't think we can have an archaic
revival by simply going backward. We have to carry our archaeology of
knowledge to the point where we understand the essence of what took
place in the past and then adjust it into modern forms. We have to
acknowledge, for example, that the total population is larger now. That
means recycling is mandatory. That means green consciousness, Gaia
consciousness, will have to play a leading role in rituals performed
on various days. The mandate is to create a new mythology that can
organize different styles of churches on the path of convergent evolution.

RUPERT: I think religious reform cannot come from the traditional reli-
gious hierarchy but must come through an attractive new movement that
is practiced in people's lives and spreads through example

RALPH: There's a real gap in the strategies for starting a new system
between those based on archaic or pagan revival and those based on
revolution in the churches or resacralization by religion. The traditional
church denies the validity of archaic pagan forms, a denial carried to the
extreme of revising history and pulverizing goddess figurines and statues.
Besides partnership of the genders, local control, and a green politic
within the ritual of the church, there must be acknowledgment of
the essential religiosity of the pagan forms.

RUPERT: If there were to develop a true Mother Earth religion, it would
probably have priestesses rather than priests, because its central figure is
a goddess. It would relate human life to the Earth first and foremost.
Our bodies return to the Earth. Such a religion would be into the whole
material cycle, with little emphasis on the stars or the heavens. I think it
would become very claustrophobic for a lot of people before very long.
There would then be reborn a religion that brought in the aspiration
toward the stars, the heavens, the greatness of the cosmos. We'd have a
choice of religious images. We could choose, for example, between
a god or a goddess of the heavens.

RALPH: We are envisioning a revolution of religion in which there would
be priests, priestesses, local control, a renewal of meaning in rites and
rituals, and so on. Unfortunately, there has been a continual decline in
attendance at churches. The fact that a revival may be already underway
is of no great use unless it becomes attractive. There has developed a
pretty strong habit of revulsion toward churches and all their sins over
these past centuries. Plus, there's the competition of scientism as a new
mythology that is totally disjoint from the churches and attractive
because of the power of its weapons.                             

RUPERT: One of the big emotional plusses of scientism for people is its
sense of superiority. I converted to scientism at about age fourteen. A bit
like you, Ralph, I looked around at everybody else praying or appear-
ing to pray and imagined I was seeing from a higher point of view in
which all this was superstition. Modern people feel superior to the part
of religion that seems infantile and part of the past. However, a collapse

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of faith in scientism is happening all around us; a widespread public
disillusionment with science has been developing.

RALPH: People are left stranded, having rejected the church in favor
of science and having rejected science in favor of nothing. This is the
dilemma of today.

TERENCE: Science and green politics can be sacralized through the
psychedelic experience. The psychedelic person knows that the scientist
dismissing people bowed in prayer is a poor fool. A green party that uses
a mystical language, a psychedelic language, a language of integration
with nature and emotion would have tremendous appeal. That's why
Rupert is so keen on the ayahuasca cults of Brazil, because on one level
they seek to preserve the rain forest and help out little people, but on
another level they offer a psychedelic religion that makes claims on
the imagination, the heart, and the world soul.

RALPH: How about celebrating the Eleusinian mysteries in the Cathedral
of Saint John the Divine, or something of that scale?

TERENCE: It has to be understood that psychedelics are a way to the
Gaian mind. They are not metaphors for sacraments, they are real
sacraments, and their efficaciousness can have political consequences.
A mystical political movement would become a crusade or a jihad.
The energy of the attractor is so great in the mystical dimension that it
creates a situation in which saving the Earth is not something we argue
about, it's something we go out and do, like recovering Jerusalem
for the pope.

RALPH: We had a big start in the sixties toward this kind of psychedelic/
green revolution. It failed for different reasons. For simplicity, I'll suppose
that the failure of the hippie subculture was due to its repression.

TERENCE: It had no program, that's all. The only program was to end
the war.

RALPH: But there were festivals, cults, and rituals that were changed to
suit the locale, the sacrament, and sacred music. A lot of things we're
talking about were actually happening in the sixties. But there was great
and successful opposition to the program we're now envisioning. What

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about the desire of the current system to maintain itself by opposing
the evolution of a green psychedelic revolution?

TERENCE: I think the battle is already won. No one can oppose the
crusade to save the Earth; they can only quibble with its methods or style
or rhetoric. No one can stand up and say, "I'm against saving the Earth."

RALPH: Lip service is not enough. People have to art collectively and
according to a strategy that has a possibility of success.

TERENCE: If your enemies give lip service to your ideals, it's a signal
that you are in the top position. Everybody's trying to out-green every-
body else.

RALPH: The Earth's environment is a huge system, and it's not enough to
recycle plastic bottles. It's not enough to stop cutting down the Amazon
jungle. These things only earn a slight extension of the time available to
evolve a better strategy for things like the population explosion and the
exhaustion of our resources.

TERENCE: If Gaia is on our side, what fears do we need to entertain?
RALPH: The magnitude of the problem guarantees a response.

RUPERT: The green movement, if it's to be effective, must have a spiritual
and mystical dimension. How does it acquire one without either allying
itself to a green form of Christianity and Judaism or inventing its own
kind of priestess or priest cult and carrying out its own rituals?

RALPH: There's a time-scale problem. The environmental crisis is
coming upon us with the speed of a tidal wave. In the long run, it will be
compared to the Flood of Noah. People had better get moving in the
revitalized green church movement if they want to be on the band-
wagon at all.

TERENCE: The people who can lead the psychedelicized green move-
ment have been training themselves for years without understanding what
they have been training for. Called upon to do so, they will step forward.

RUPERT: There would be an ecumenical psychedelic green order. The

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Christian greens would link up with the green order of Judaism because
they would have to work closely together.

RALPH: There need to be green mystical orders associated with every
religion. They would serve as a kind of neural network connecting all
of these diverse systems into a new unity.

RUPERT: There'd be green orders of Islam, green orders of Hinduism . . .
RALPH: . . . and Neosufism and Neokabbalah and . . .

RUPERT: The green order in America would have as one of its roles
helping people reconnect with sacred places in America and honor them
through appropriate ceremonies. The green order in England would have
the role of connecting people with England's sacred places.

RALPH: Just as organized religion needs revolution and reinterpretation,
so science also needs revolution and reinterpretation. The Gaia hypothe-
sis and its accompanying paradigm shift in science are bringing together
scientists of different specialties who have never spoken with each other
before. This represents a major restructuring and synthesis of science.

TERENCE: Science for the first time has the capacity to measure its own
impart on the world. Science created all these problems and science is
now revealing their magnitude as they bear down upon us.

RALPH: The accommodation of a scientific view of history and archae-
ology by the church has to be matched by an equal resacralization
of science.

TERENCE: The purpose of science should be understanding, not only
technique. We need to hold back while we assimilate what we know at
our current level, not push relentlessly deeper into the application of
techniques. That is rape. That is violation.

RALPH: The revitalization of the church and the revision of science are
already under way. In order to nucleate the social transformation implied,
there must be a nucleation site, a first exemplar of this coalition of
church and science. From this nucleus, the transformation might spread
outward in rapid diffusion, amplified by the media.

TERENCE: A psychedelic green party.

RUPERT: The Pacific Northwest of America is one part of the world
where there is an attempt to reintegrate green politics and psychedelic
cults with the Judaic and Christian traditions. In Europe, lots of people
use native psilocybin mushrooms, but I don't know whether they're used
in a ceremonial setting. In America, mushroom cults have developed
under the influence of peyote circles and Native American traditions of
the sacramental use of plants. I don't think there are any living,
indigenous traditions of this type left in Europe.

The modern ayahuasca cult originated in the Amazon when a
Christian took this substance and had a vision of Mary, who appeared
to him as our Lady of the Forest. She was clad in green and revealed the
outlines of the ritual use of ayahuasca—which the devotees call daime—
as a communion. Such things are revealed rather than invented. They
have to be channeled. If a mushroom cult were to grow up in Britain, it
would have to happen spontaneously through prayer and visionary
guidance.

TERENCE: The Mexican mushroom religion does its rituals in a very
logical way—in small circles at night, with intentionality. There's song,
there's prayer, and there's silence.

RUPERT: It's very easy to conceive of such rituals. But to have authenticity
for those who participate in them, they have to be revealed rather than

invented.

TERENCE: They are psychedelic experiences. Their authenticity comes
from themselves. We're not talking about reciting mantras. This is
the real thing.

RUPERT: Such ceremonies would need to be rooted in the spirit of the
place where they occurred, and there would have to be appropriate
intention and ritual elements to make them part of a larger movement
such as the green order. Psychedelic groups would be the visionary
branch of a larger green movement.

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room was the midwife of humanity and that all human beings in all times
and places can actually claim it as their heritage.

RALPH: The ritual use of mushrooms would have been a gigantic
chreode. It would be possible to excavate it at any time, anywhere.

TERENCE: Use of psychedelic mushrooms was the religion of human
beings in Africa for the first million years. It underwent a retraction ten
thousand years ago and broke up as recently as seven or eight thousand
years ago when the progressive desertification of the Sahara changed it
from a vast grassland into the formidable desert that exists today. The
archaic revival seeks cultural restoration of this lost symbiotic partner.
It isn't ultimately a matter of the psychedelic experience per se: psilocy-
bin has some unique relationship to the evolution of the human nervous
system. In fart, it turns the human nervous system into an antenna for the
Gaian mind, assisting people to behave appropriately in the same way
that termites behave appropriately within the morphogenetic field of their
termite nest. If this antenna is not present in human beings, then human
beings have to think up their own program, and it's usually power
crazed, lethal, shortsighted, and grabby.

RUPERT: If this is the case, is your impression of people belonging to
mushroom cults that they are of an entirely different quality from those
who don't belong to such groups? Do they behave appropriately and
in tune with the Gaian mind?

TERENCE: They tend to be rural. They tend to live communally. They
tend to be nonmotivated in the economic realm. In other words, they live
simply. Voluntary simplicity is a concept they're very familiar with. They
love and value their children. They exemplify the values that peasantry
has always exemplified because they live near the land. They want for
nothing, but they have very little. This is my impression.

RALPH: Do they have a plan to take over the Christian churches?

TERENCE: No, they are beyond this. They are in the thrall of their
religious relationship to the mushroom.

RALPH: They may be absorbed by this political program sooner or later,
as the acid rain destroys their mushrooms.

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TERENCE: My audiences until very recently preferred me to dwell on the
mystical, the transhistorical. About a year and a half ago, people started
questioning why there was no political content to my talks. Now they
demand political content. We may imagine, because we're intellectuals
and because we deal with this data, that Gaian politics is more on our
minds than on the mind of the average person, but the housewife doing
her ironing and the schoolchild on the bus both worry about the fate of
the Earth. The collective information field has shifted its attention. The
only competition for this focus on the need to save the Earth is the stupid
anti-drug hysteria. It's an issue of how we relate to the vegetable matrix.

RUPERT: The psychedelic order is only one aspect of the resacralization
program. Another aspect is the revival of pilgrimage and the sense of
sacred time. These can be incorporated easily into many contexts of
people's lives. The reason pilgrims and tourists go to sacred places is that
some quality of the place is special. Rather than visiting just for historical
or archaeological reasons, people can relate to the quality of a place
consciously, asking the spirit of the place to inform and illuminate them
on their visit and to give them its blessing. I think most people go to
sacred places or into the wilderness because of a desire to make some
such connection. This is part of the romantic, private, subjective tradition
of our culture. It may be fairly easy to resacralize tourism. Through the
impetus of the green movement, the revival of pilgrimage could spread
very rapidly.

RALPH: I think we've arrived at a vision characterized by surprising
optimism about the outcome of this crisis. This vision incorporates the
successful escape from the downward spiral via the green movement,
resacralization, and psychedelic orders. We're talking about going up the
down staircase, and the way this has emerged in our trialogue, it sounds
fairly plausible, possible, and underway. Perhaps it'll be the responsibility
of the sacred artist to provide the links between politics, theology, and
practical action.

TERENCE: Maybe what we need is a conference linking green politics
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green politics but not at all or mostly negatively about transformational
options would have a chance to discuss these options.

RALPH: It would be a conference of synergy between the new politics
and the new religion.

RUPERT: I don't think you want a conference. I think what you want is a
sacrament.

TERENCE: A pilgrimage and a sacrament.

I think it is of primary importance to recognize consciously that
education is a form of initiation. . . . In fact, modern education
involves an initiation into the rationalist or humanist worldview. It
elevates the intellect to a disembodied point of view in which every-
thing is seen as if from the outside. . . . An alternative educational
model would still be based on initiation, but a broader kind,
not confined to the intellectual realm.
—Rupert Sheldrake

In reformed education, people must be taught that history is a
system of interlocking resonances in which we are all imbedded.
We must teach our children that they are going to be called upon
to make decisions that will affect the state of life on this planet
millennia in the future.
—Terence McKenna

The educational system of the new world order also needs the
participation of the community in the determination of the curri-
culum. It needs to resist evolution that's too fast while not being
too rigid to change. It needs to involve a partnership of the special
and the general. It needs to relate to life, not only in terms of fixing
the faucets but in terms of making everyday moral decisions
about altruism and selflessness and synergy.
—Ralph Abraham

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Education in the
New World Order

RUPERT: Everybody agrees, even mainstream educationalists,
that there's something wrong with the educational system we have
today. Every society or civilization has an educational system of
some kind. What would the educational system in the new world
order look like?

I think it is of primary importance to recognize consciously that
education is a form of initiation. Even in the present system, we have a
training period and then we pass through a time of testing or trial. Some
of us fail, others pass, and the passed ones become the initiates. At every
level we have examinations, and each level of initiation is accompanied
by impressive public graduation ceremonies. In this realm, the medieval
hierarchy lives on, complete with robes, B.A., M.A., Ph.D., and so on.
The initiates are like a secular priesthood qualified to run and order
society. From their ranks are drawn our bureaucrats, scientists,
technocrats, and intellectuals.

With certification of higher levels of education, people get better
jobs, better employment opportunities, and more respect. For this reason,
to the despair of educators throughout the world, most students passing
through universities seem to have more interest in receiving degrees than
real interest in the subjects they're studying. In the Third World, a B.A.
or an M.A. changes a person's entire social status. In India, a person's
marriage prospects and the size of dowry they can command depend
on their degree.

In fact, modern education involves an initiation into the rationalist
or humanist worldview. It elevates the intellect to a disembodied point of
view in which everything is seen as if from the outside. Its slogan is
objectivity. When school children are taught literature within this
framework, the teacher does not read them great poems accompanied
by the beating of a drum and the bringing in of magic and the realm of
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so who was born in so-and-so and influenced by so-and-so." Students
learn facts about the poems rather than the poems themselves. This
education system makes the supreme arbiter a kind of emotionless,
detached, disembodied mind working through the medium of
written language. It tests students solely in the written rather
than the spoken mode.

The first step in this system is literacy. People must read and write
so they can know what's in reports, official documents, newspapers, and
books. This becomes more important than what they actually feel or
experience. The great libraries are like temples, containing much more
than any one of us could ever read or know about. The deeper one's
initiation into the priesthood of the written word, the less the realm of
personal experience counts for anything—except in the realm of private
life, behind the diaphragm that separates the private person from the
educated public persona.

An alternative educational model would still be based on initiation,
but a broader kind not confined to the intellectual realm. Throughout
the world, people realize that being initiated means taking on a new
social role, and usually these roles are in some sense sacralized. There
are guilds and castes of craftsmen—in India, the potter caste, the weaver
caste, the priest caste, and so on—with their own traditions and skills
passed from parents to children. Children are generally initiated into the
skills of their parents. In our society, for example, most adults want to be
initiated into the club of qualified drivers. They go through a learning
period and pass a test, and then a new freedom opens up. There is real
power with a magnetic pull and glamor to it. There are also initia-
tions into skills like swimming and football, trades like plumbing, and
the various professions.

Much of the present educational system could be transformed if we
consciously recognized its initiatory quality. For example, medical
students, in order to become doctors, are required to dissect a human
corpse. To overcome their instinctive, deep-down revulsion to the array
of dead bodies, as well as traditional taboos against interfering with
corpses, students first entering the dissecting room presently adopt a
highly detached and usually jocular attitude. In the new system, medical
students would still dissect a human body, but they would prepare them

selves with a meditation on death. As in some Tantric traditions where
practitioners spend a night alone in a graveyard, this would make ex-
plicit the initiatory quality of the solemn moment of confronting death.

Other trades and professions would have comparable initiatory
elements. Computer modeling, for example, would be an important part
of the initiation into mathematics. This would introduce the initiate to
the mathematical landscape, which mathematicians don't talk much
about. Rather than pretending that mathematics is only a rational system
of numbers and symbols, the initiate would be exposed to the vivid visual
imagination, which is where creative mathematicians realize the magic is.

Included in the new educational system would be rites of passage
at puberty. These could happen at new-style summer camps where there
would be a program involving a vision quest, for example, with at least
twenty-four hours spent alone in the wilderness. Such camps already
exist in places like northern Vancouver Island, mostly for Native
American youth.

One kind of system that already has this initiatory quality is the
workshop system. This is at present the principal model for an alterna-
tive educational system that could replace the present one. Workshops
make the dynamics of people interacting as a group explicit, and they are
based on learning through experience. They attract people who actually
want to learn something with others, find some new insight, or make
some new transition.

TERENCE: You put your finger on the fact that the initiatory ritual is the
continuing thread from the archaic that can lead us into the future. The
only thing I would add is that the education of the future should have a
tremendous focus on history. The educational system currently in place
has as its paradigm the teaching of physics—in other words, the con-
veying of an extremely abstract, mathematically based description of
nature that leads to high engineering competence. In an ideal educational
milieu, the science of archaeology might replace the science of physics as
the place where the focus is put. With the revolution in data recovery
ability that has occurred in archaeology in the last ten years, a kind
of telescope into the past is being erected by the world archaeology
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industrial notion of history as a kind of trendless fluctuation or class
struggle or some other very dreary model of the human journey
through time.

We've fallen into a sort of historical amnesia that has blunted the
acuity of our political decision making. In reformed education, people
must be taught that history is a system of interlocking resonances in
which we are all imbedded. We must teach our children that they are
going to be called upon to make decisions that will affect the state of life
on this planet millennia in the future. Without some knowledge of his-
tory from the birth of the universe down to yesterday's headlines, we're
not in a position to act in our own best interest. I define education
broadly as the inculcation of attitudes that cause us to act generally in
the interest of all.

RALPH: The workshop mode would be valuable to diffuse the curricu-
lum with new dimensions of history, archaeology, and the revisioning of
the past. There could be a different teacher every year, rather than
a professor with tenure.

We've focused on higher education, and maybe when higher
education is transformed, it will somehow change the whole educational
system. I feel, however, that we haven't really addressed the main prob-
lems in the current system. The trouble is, we don't know exactly
what they are.

Infusing the current educational system with a new spirit probably
will not be sufficient. Who will be organizing all of this? Where is the
department of administration, the administration building? Who's
deciding which workshops will be offered, which teacher will conduct
them, and so on? Will there be a new emphasis on a feminist revision of
history? Will there be new interpretations of data from archaeology?
Somebody must decide, whether it's the PTA or whatever, how many
people are going to school. Everyone? A few? Those who wish? What
rewards will be offered? These things are the nuts and bolts of running
a school system. As the system evolves, or devolves, the path must be
determined and put in place at the beginning.

In the current initiation system, there are two different processes:
the initiation process and the accreditation process. This means that there

is instruction and then there is a test. As a teacher, I've always hated
the testing aspect. I am happy to teach people who want to learn from
me. That is a role I can accept. Nevertheless, I must also write letters of
recommendation or declare that a student has reached a certain level.
Usually, I don't even know what level—using the grades of A, B, C, or
whatever—the student has reached, and whatever I once thought the
dividing line between the grades was, I'm no longer sure. I like the
initiating and I don't like the testing. Yet if there is no testing, the
educational system fails in its mission.

Spiritual, moral, and social values are consistent with initiation
but not with testing. One of the things society asks education to do is
produce people qualified for trades and professions. I think the heart of a
school system's curriculum should transcend the trades, the professions,
the basic skills. Where is the spiritual initiation? Where are the moral
and ethical values? Where is the fabric of society, as it were? Where is this
to be taught, if not in the schools? Did Plato's Academy have a final exam
on Socrates' Philosophy 101?

Perhaps, in a new system, there would be a spiritual elite and profes-
sors of moral philosophy. Plato and Socrates would lead a workshop,
or something like that. The administrators arranging the plumbing work-
shops and those arranging the spiritual workshops would be people
with different qualifications.

Another thing that has crippled the modern university is the isolation
of the specialties. Besides having workshops with one leader, we must
have trialogue workshops to give the interplay of different specialties due
time. I don't propose, as some have, that we completely replace courses in
specialties with interdisciplinary courses. I think we need a partnership,
like Mother Earth and Father Sky. There should be time for the special-
ties and equal time for the syncretists to free associate, to relate the subject
matter of the entire educational experience to the progress and future
of society and to the evolutionary challenges facing each generation.

The educational system of the new world order also needs the par-
ticipation of the community in the determination of the curriculum.
It needs to resist evolution that's too fast while not being too rigid to
change. It needs to involve a partnership of the special and the general.
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terms of making everyday moral decisions about altruism and selflessness
and synergy.

RUPERT: Obviously, the element lacking in what I've proposed is the
spiritual dimension. I took for granted, based on the present system, that
the educational system is essentially secular. If we think of a spiritually
based system, there's a completely different realm of possibilities. Our
problem is that if the education system were Christian, then Jews,
Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and atheists would object. This is why
secularism is an important feature of modern political ideology and why
spiritual traditions and practices have no place in schools. The secular
state by its very nature is desacralized. It's a humanist concept.

For an entire society to have a spiritual dimension, one would need
official state rituals like they have in Japan with the emperor and the
Shinto religion and in Britain with the monarchy and the established
church. The American model is entirely desacralized.

In America, the system would have to be a free-for-all. It would work
something like this: Each student at age eighteen would be given books
of fifty-five or so workshop vouchers, and the student would have to
take fifty-five workshops over the next three years in order to become an
initiated adult. There would have to be a minimum number taken in
specific areas, like group dynamics, myths, history, philosophy, natural
history, ecology, morality, and religion. To facilitate choice and logistics,
there would be a computerized catalog of all the relevant programs
offered at all recognized workshop centers.

RALPH: The graduating credential on finishing the use of the fifty-five
vouchers would be the list of workshops completed at the point of
initiation.

RUPERT: The whole process would start with a ceremonial induction
into the pathway. Each workshop would itself have an initiatory pattern.
The whole thing would culminate in some final test involving not only
intellectual and practical skills but skills in groups as well. The final
ceremony could also involve, as the Eleusinian mysteries, a psychedelic
initiation, perhaps with mushrooms.

TERENCE: This would be the archaic return: a culmination of the edu-

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cational process and the archaic mystery. Such ceremonies and sacra-
ments were the original source of community. This concept follows very
firmly in the steps of Aldous Huxley. In his last work, Island, he
suggested annual ritualized encounters with psilocybin in a context
of other radical forms of physical and mental therapy as a basis for a new
form of education. As we reinvent Eleusis, we truly reinvent the wheel.

RALPH: This educational concept is actually a covert plan for the
introduction of a new world religion through the religious aspects of
initiation—and perhaps through visits to sacred sites. In the absence of
an actual schoolhouse, there would be workshop centers all over the
map. Workshops in religion, ethics, and so on would correspond to
different established traditions as well as extinct, ancient traditions.

RUPERT: These workshops would be led by people from all traditions:
Roman Catholic, Methodist, Islamic, Hindu, Tibetan Buddhist, and so
on. If students wanted to know about Judaism, they wouldn't go to
a professor of comparative religion, they would go to a workshop
with a rabbi.

RALPH: The relationship between education and the job market would
be clear in the classified ads: "Must have three W courses, two E courses,
and one S course." As requirements of different industries become
known, people seeking a particular profession would see to it that they
took courses in the required subject areas.                                       

RUPERT: This system could fulfill the needs of employers better than the
present one.                                                                               

RALPH: This vision becomes more satisfactory and plausible. What
about the path that goes from here to there? How can we get rid of the
entrenched system? The voters would have to have a plebiscite in order
to vote on the opportunity to have a voucher system in the schools.

RUPERT: The system can simply be privatized. Vouchers would be valid
at schools on an approved list drawn up by a new kind of educational
board. The system would be pluralistic and extremely responsive to what
people actually want and what students and parents are actually inte-
rested in. It would be decentralized and self-regulating.

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TERENCE: This is school as business. Do we really want a marketplace
of ideas?

RUPERT: It would be run not for profit, but through charitable trusts.
We also need to consider the reform of existing professions. Each
branch of the present educational system already exists as a kind of
guild of mathematicians or biochemists or engineers—with its own
founding fathers, honored traditions, and so on. Each of these guilds
needs to develop from within itself a vision of itself in the new world
order. Groups of doctors or astronomers or geologists could get together
in workshop gatherings in places like Esalen to discuss their original
vision in becoming doctors. They would ask questions such as: What
inspired us to study medicine? What is our present experience of the
profession? What are the main limitations? What would a new vision
of the healing profession be like? What could astronomy be for
people today? How can the geologic profession reconnect with its
patroness, Mother Earth?

RALPH: Even when the plebiscite is put on the ballot and passed,
and when students are issued vouchers and the new structure simply
begins, most teachers will still be ignorant of the meaning of ancient sites,
the significance of stars, and the new vision of healing. Chances are they
would continue teaching exactly as they teach today. While the new
schools envision a new curriculum, the workshops would keep on
teaching the old one.

What kind of miracle would get the whole system onto a new track?
Particularly, how could the resacralization aspect that we are longing
for ever happen?

RUPERT: You wouldn't just get a booklet of vouchers through the
mail. When you start on your path, you would be entering a kind of
apprenticeship. There would be an induction ceremony, which could be
Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, or secular. There would be plenty
of scope for free enterprise in this area. You'd go through one of these
ceremonies, calling in blessings on your journey. You'd get your book
of vouchers as part of the ceremony. All of this would take place at a
sacred place of your choosing.

RALPH: Setting up a system of initiation rites would be the key step for
switching the whole system over.

RUPERT: This may become fairly easy as the importance of initiations
and rites of passage for personal development becomes widely
recognized.

RALPH: What about the five million young Americans who come of age
for their first initiation this coming fall? Exactly how do we accommo-
date this number of students and produce thousands of new teachers
to teach a quarter million workshops in a year?

RUPERT: Instead of an overnight change in the entire American system,
I'm thinking of a pioneering experiment in a limited area.

RALPH: And it may slowly grow if it deserves to.

RUPERT: Things happen organically in society. We can't convert a system
without some example of an alternative that actually works.

TERENCE: We need some concrete proof of concept demonstration.

RUPERT: The workshop system is already up and running as a concrete
alternative. It exists in a pluralistic, free-market form, and it is self-
sustaining. People go to workshops because they want to. Unfortunately,
at present practically no one under thirty goes to workshops. It's a system
of education entirely for the middle aged.

RALPH: What would be necessary to attract an eighteen-year-old to a
workshop?                                                                   

RUPERT: The fact is, a lot of teenagers don't know that this world of
workshops exists. If they came to Esalen, for example, on an initiatory
program, they would be initiated into an adult world, and new pos-
sibilities would open up to them.

Obviously, there would need to be a whole new breed of workshop
leaders. Existing workshop centers would take on the new role of creat-
ing workshops to train and initiate"workshop leaders.

RALPH: Somehow, standards would have to be maintained. It would
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its continuous existence. Given the corruption that's a known mechanism
in the downward spiral of societies, worse and worse workshops would
become more and more popular because they would offer the valuation,
the accreditation, and the initiation without the student actually doing
anything other than sitting in a hot bath and meditating.

TERENCE: What you're implying is what you seek to avoid: a second
overseeing entity that tests the workshop graduate.

RALPH: It could be that industries wouldn't employ somebody just for
having graduated. They would insist on a prospective employee having
gone to workshops from some of their favorite teachers or institutions.
A bachelor's degree from Esalen could be worth more than a bachelor's
degree from Stanford.

TERENCE: Corporations could post a list of courses that would enhance
people's likelihood of being hired by them. Then students could choose
for themselves which ones they would include as they formed their
curriculum.

RALPH: This would be an intrinsic, self-organizational model. Maybe
the corporations could just do their own testing.

RUPERT: This could start right away on a limited scale. Scholarships
could be offered for, say, five workshop vouchers, with beginning and
ending ceremonies for the whole thing. College students could do the
workshops during their vacations. When they return to their college, they
could tell their friends, who might then want to be initiated themselves.
This would begin to establish a parallel system of education operating
alongside the present one. If it becomes a sufficiently powerful attractor,
it would have an enormous impact on schools and colleges. The
traditional system's faults would become more and more apparent,
because more and more people within it would have another take on
what education could be like. Sooner or later, colleges would start
offering workshop-type education themselves and eventually convert
to the initiatory model.

RALPH: Present colleges could be persuaded to offer transfer credit for a
set of five workshops in this program. Five workshops would count as

one course. It would be like taking an extension course or a work/study
program. In the summer, students could take workshops At five different
workshop sites or just one, and they would get a college credit for it.

In sum, the new world system could actually begin with an
educational program. We have to find a way to actually begin the pilot
project. Since the adult education division is already functioning, we
need to expand it into high school and college divisions. A lew people
presently coming of age, perhaps children of people who are already
participants in adult workshops, could enthusiastically volunteer to be
the first students of the new system. As this attractor grows and evolves
and self-organizes, a bifurcation point will be reached, at which time a
popular referendum could pass legislation for the fifty-five-coupon
books. Existing universities and professional schools would then begin
to accept workshops for transfer credit.

This system has to begin in an existing workshop center. Possibly it
could be here at Esalen, since we're here dreaming this up. Assuming that
corruption doesn't somehow annihilate the system as soon as it starts,
it's a devious way of achieving the resacralization of the world.

When encountered outside the religious framework, the apocalyptic
expectation of imminent transformation of the environment—with
the individual somehow playing a central role—is labeled pathology.
This pathological symptom in individuals is the driving force
behind much of our civilization.
—Terence McKenna

Much more likely than any of these things we've discussed is the fact
that we're facing a serious ecological crisis and evolutionary challenge
of unprecedented magnitude.
—Ralph Abraham

The attractor beyond all the doom may be another state of being
that is extraordinarily blissful compared with anything we know
here, as well as more perfect. This is the fantasy of the recovery of
Eden, the Promised Land. There's something quite magical and
infinitely attractive about this idea that has motivated the
entire historical process.
—Rupert Sheldrake

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The Apocalypse

TerENCE: As we near the end of our trialogues, it is fitting that we
cast our minds toward final things. This seems to be not only the theme
of the crisis in the present moment but the unique unifying thread
throughout Western religion. More insistently than all other religious
systems on Earth, the Western systems insist on appointing an end to
their world. The cyclical worlds of Hinduism are cycles of time so vast
that they lose all force on the popular imagination. What uniquely dis-
tinguishes Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is the insistence that God
will appear tangential to history in a way that will create a last-days
scenario. This scenario will involve a great uptaking of souls into the
mystery of God. This idea, which is called "apocalyptic" in its more
catastrophic version and "millenarian" in its more pastoral version, is a
necessary correlative to the concept of Eden and the unique moment of
humanity's creation by God. If human creation occurred at a unique
moment in the history of the universe, then presumably, after the
expiation of the sin of Eden, God will gather humans once again into
the mystery.

When encountered outside the religious framework, the apocalyptic
expectation of imminent transformation of the environment—with the
individual somehow playing a central role—is labeled pathology. This
pathological symptom in individuals is the driving force behind much
of our civilization. Some years ago, the secretary of the interior was
asked why he wasn't saving more of America's forests. He replied that
he saw no reason to save the forests since Jesus was coming and the
end of the world was imminent.

What is this intuition about the end of the world? Now that we're
beginning to gather more data, science is beginning to pay back on
promises made in the eighteenth century to give us a complete and deep
description of the physical and astronomical universe. What we're seeing
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in the Solar System that isn't deeply pockmarked with asteroidal impact.
From the inner planets to the moons of the gas giants there is tremendous
visual evidence of catastrophic episodes throughout the Solar System's
history.

If God or a supertransmundane event were to enter the ordinary
biological and evolutionary history of a planet, there might be some kind
of shock wave of anticipation, a sense of the disruption of ordinary
events before the big event was in fact imminent. The brief period we've
experienced of the past twenty thousand years seems to be within
such an aura of anticipation. If we could strip the provincialism from the
messages of the apocalyptic religions, we would find they have a deep
intuition about the inherent instability of the cosmos. I think they are
trying to extract something out of the human future that may in fact
involve the survival of the planet. Shamans and mystics and psychedelic
travelers may be getting a very noisy, low-grade signal about a future
event that is somehow built into the structure of space and time.

Perhaps we are somehow witnesses to a major phase transition in the
career of self-reflecting Bios in the universe. It may not be the end of the
world but a complete systemic reorganization on the scale of the meta-
morphosis that occurs in butterflies: a complete meltdown of the
previous world system and then a recasting at the behest of a higher,
Gaian mind or the world soul.

Life has a terrifying tenaciousness. It seized hold of this planet
3.5 billion years ago and has managed it through hellfire. It has again
and again brought the planet into stable equilibria supportive of biology.
There have been asteroid infalls and continents ground to dust, and still,
life has kept hold of its chunk of ground. Perhaps the recent advent of
human intelligence signals a crisis of greater magnitude. The presence of
our minds may indicate that we are very near some sort of enormous
concrescing singularity.

We are experiencing more than calendrical pressure from the
approach of the third millennium. Concrescence appears in graphs of re-
sources and population density and demand for hydroelectric energy and
levels of strontium 90 in milk. Who can look at all this data and not see
either the yawning grave of humanity or a complete system reversal?
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sort toward which all of history is being poured at a great rate. It's
seeping into our religions, our politics, our dreams, and into the general
imagination. We have the peculiar good fortune of fulfilling the wish
conveyed in the Irish toast "May you be alive at the end of the world."

RALPH: It seems logical that if there was a Big Bang at the beginning,
then there will be a Big Bang at the end. The Creation story in Genesis
and the preceding myths somehow imply this.

TERENCE: In the Revelation of Saint John the Divine, this is laid out.
Angels come and pour down diseases. There are plagues of scorpionlike
creatures that come from the interior of the Earth. At the end, the twelve-
gated city, the new Jerusalem, comes down like a flying saucer covered
with jewels. It is God's kingdom coming to Earth to receive the elect
as the oceans boil away and the damned are dragged into hell for eternity.
This is a completely bizarre production that is one of the most puzzling
pieces of literature in the Christian canon. People who immediately
followed Christ expected it within their lifetime. There was a 120-year
period when no one got seriously organized because everybody was
standing around waiting for the end of the world. "Amen, Amen, I say
unto you, this generation shall not pass away until these things
are accomplished."

After about a century of this, people like Origen and Eusebius
came forward and said, "Listen, enough of this waiting for the end of
the world. We have to get the scene organized and get our hands on
some real estate."

RALPH: I would think that the force of the prophecy has declined.

TERENCE: There are fundamentalist cults in the United States, whose
adherents number in the tens of millions, that believe the scenario of
Revelation is being played out on the front pages of the newspaper. The
most extreme position holds that the apocalypse occurred in 1847 and
that we are now living in the millennium. Then there are those who
locate the date in the near future, around the year 2000 and the turning
of the century. In millenarian speculation, people who discover the key
invariably find the millenarian date to be just a few years ahead of
their own time period.

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However, if we're trying to count all the adherents to the apocalypse
theory, then we have to count all the folks into scientism with their
greenhouse effects, ozone holes, CFCs, and acid rain. They, too, preach
apocalypse.

RUPERT: We've had the end-of-the-world scenario of nuclear holocaust
hanging over us for decades.

RALPH: It comes from the same culture. I just wonder how much credibil-
ity to give the Christian apocalyptic vision when less than half the human
population is involved with it. Does this mean that just half of the planet
would be vaporized while the other half would keep on going?

TERENCE: All of these scenarios may be metaphors for something really
weird that we are in a much better position to anticipate than John the
Divine of Patmos was. In one of the scenarios I've imagined, time travel
will be discovered and history will end, suddenly—just bang. People
beyond that point will look back at us the way we look at the Anasazi
and talk about how people used to live in linear time: all that waiting for
stuff to happen in a strange jelly of stiffened dimensionality. To people
born into a time-traveling world, the previous mode of existence will be
mere rumor. When they are in the future, they will be able to travel back
into the past, but no further than the discovery of the first time machine.
Before that moment there were no time machines, and they can't take a
time machine into a universe where time machines don't exist.

Imagine that it's December 22, 2012, at the La Chorrera World
Temporal Mechanics Institute. The countdown is in progress and the
temponaut has been strapped into the time machine. A technician
pushes the button and she sails off into the future. The interesting
question is, What happens in the next moment?

RALPH: Millions of people arrive from a more populated part of the
universe.

TERENCE: Yes. Millions of time machines arrive from all possible parts
of the future. This historic moment is as far back as people can go in
their time machines. They will say to each other, "Have you been to the
edge? Have you been back and seen the Abraham machine take off?"
At this point, in considering this matter of time travel, I had a serious

delusional breakthrough: I realized that, when the temponaut goes off
into the future, suddenly all of the future will undergo some kind of
collapse and everything will happen instantly. On Earth today, the more
advanced cultures tend to influence, and finally to dominate, the less
advanced cultures. This is similar to the equalization of pressure inside
a closed chamber of gases. In the same way that gases confined in a space
equalize pressure to a uniform value, cultures tend to take on some of the
characteristics of the most advanced cultural level with which they are
in contact. This happens whether the cultures in question are confined to
a single planet and a single historical epoch or are confined within a
temporal domain defined by the limits of a time-traveling technology.

The most advanced state of human accomplishment, even if it is
billions of years in the future and absolutely beyond our ability to
imagine, will appear one millisecond after the temponaut takes off, on
the other side of the time threshold. This technology takes the entire
future history of the universe, up until its conclusion, and compresses it
down into the next few milliseconds. We will then be face to face with the
end purpose of all evolution, all process, all pattern, all energy, space,
time, and matter.

This is a complete fulfillment of the monotheistic intuition about the
apocalypse. It is as though the universe is a huge conundrum, and we're
in there suffering through a long strange trip. There's science and religion
and magic, and we're fumbling and fumbling slowly toward something.
It turns out to be the alchemical gold, and when we clasp it to ourselves,
time ends, space ends, matter ends, and everything ends. We go into the
conclusion, the payoff, the jackpot. We go over the cusp and meet the
management.                         

RALPH: Probably, this hasn't happened yet.

TERENCE: No. It will occur in a.d. 2012. At least that's the implication I
draw from my work with the fractal wave that was so carefully built into
the I Ching by the pre-Chou Chinese. There is very good agreement
between this wave and recorded historical data, but only if we make two
assumptions. One is that the wave maps the ingression of novelty, or
complexity, into three-dimensional space/time. The second assumption is
that the wave's terminus is late in a.d. 2012. With these assumptions in

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place, there is a very neat formal mapping for the most difficult of all
phenomena to model: human history itself. The fact that the Mayan
calendar ends on the same date gives me some measure of confidence.

RALPH: There are alternatives in the interpretation of this date. I think
that this particular time-travel fantasy of yours is actually a syncretism
between apocalyptic paranoia and the time wave.

TERENCE: It isn't necessary to associate apocalypse with the date. The
fact that the wave fits so well with all this millenarian and apocalyptic
pressure at the turn of the millennium seems pretty suggestive to me.
The Mayan calculations are another coincidence. The Maya and the
Christians are within twelve years of each other if we take the year 2000
as the turn of the eon. This is the slippery realm of human judgment
and data evaluation.

RALPH: Ruth Benedict studied sixty different cultures, charting them
out by different parameters and finally sorting them into three bins: the
Apollonian, the Dionysian, and the Paranoid. It just may be that a
Paranoid culture having a religion with a paranoid element, contributed
by Saint John the Divine, happens to develop extraordinary technical
powers that are great generators of lethal toxicity.

TERENCE: The word paranoid is designed to make people not like it. If
something has this label, nobody will seriously look into it. There is an
implicit assumption that there's nothing to be paranoid about. In fart,
in a very dynamic and unsteady universe, paranoia may well be a
true sensitivity to the facts of the matter.

RALPH: Paranoids always say that. I know there are fundamentalist
Christians around who take every word of the Bible very seriously and
literally. However, as far as I'm concerned, the Bible is somebody's
paranoid fantasy put down in a book. I certainly don't believe that it's
a divine document with any special credibility. Some people have taken
this book very seriously, so now they're paranoid too.

I'm ready to admit that there are a number of coincidences about this
year 2012 and that some of them are ominous. But I'm still not giving any
credibility to Saint John the Divine. From the morphogenetic -field point

of view, there are quite a number of people believing in Saint John the
Divine. That we have to take seriously.

TERENCE: He felt a quaking in the force. Today we have much better
techniques than Saint John the Divine to figure out what this quaking
in the force is.

RALPH: Much more likely than any of these things we've discussed is the
fart that we're facing a serious ecological crisis and evolutionary
challenge of unprecedented magnitude. James Lovelock has said that the
present rate of species extinction is one of the eight largest catastrophes
in the planet's lifetime.

TERENCE: If we don't have a miracle every day, we're not going to make
it. That's why we don't need Saint John the Divine to tell us there's an
apocalypse underway.

RALPH: Every prophecy with any credibility says to me that there is so
way to make it through. I have to admit I'm extremely doubtful of the
intelligence of this human species to find it.

TERENCE: It depends on what's causing the problem. If you think
humans are the problem . . .

RALPH: Humans are the problem.

TERENCE: All parameters of planetary stability become more and mo
unstable as time approaches the present. What about the sudden
appearance of large and repeated glaciations in the last five million years
Glaciers are new in the life of the Earth and may indicate that some-
thing is wrong with the sun or the geodynamics of the planet. Maybe
humans are the problem. Or maybe human beings are the answer.

RALPH: The Earth could jump off its orbit at any moment and head out
to space, but it seems to me that ecological catastrophe is a more
appropriate form of apocalyptic vision at the present time.

RUPERT: There's a sense in which the apocalyptic scenario we find
ourselves in is a product of the apocalyptic myth throughout history. Its a
self-fulfilling prophecy. The apocalyptic tendency in Christianity inspired
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fathers, who came to a new world in America—the promised land.
It inspired Francis Bacon's vision of unlimited progress through science
and technology and the conquest of nature. His millenarian goal was a
technological Utopia, a new Eden of peace, prosperity, and wise scientist-
priest figures running everything, a promised land flowing with milk and
honey and material abundance brought about through the scientific
control of nature. This scenario underlies the ideology of progress
and is now bringing about ecological catastrophe.

The myth of Faustian science is related to this apocalyptic model.
In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, Faust sold his soul to the devil
in return for unlimited knowledge and power for a fixed period—twenty-
four years—after which he was damned and dragged down to hell. The
modern form of the Faust myth is Mary Shelley's Frankenstein story,
in which the scientist is not destroyed by supernatural powers but by his
own creation. It's obvious that the nuclear threat has a Frankenstein
quality to it, and the ecological crisis also has this apocalyptic
mythic basis.

RALPH: For this reason, we have to do surgery on the self-fulfilling
mythological mechanism working in history. One good start would be
a reinterpretation of the Revelation of Saint John the Divine.

TERENCE: We need to switch the vision onto another track.

RUPERT: The Revelation of Saint John the Divine is not a unique
phenomenon in the Judeo-Christian tradition. Around the time of Christ,
many people believed the end was at hand. In this sense, it was a period
very similar to our own. The Book of Daniel in the Old Testament is
an apocalyptic, prophetic book and is a precursor of the Revelation
of Saint John the Divine. These are just two examples in a large and
extensive literature.

An apocalyptic spirit pervades the teachings of Jesus. Indeed, it runs
through the entire Bible. God promises Abraham that he will take him
and his descendants to another land where wonderful things will happen
and his children shall be as the sands of the sea and he shall be the father
of many nations. Through faith in such promises, history has been made.

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Faith allowed Moses to lead the people of God out of Egypt into the
Promised Land.

In such stories, there is a fundamental sense of being on a journey
toward some wonderful destiny in the future. This journey can be
to a different place, like America for the Pilgrim fathers. It can also be a
journey through history to a future millennium, to a new age. This is the
faith that underlies the attempt to transform the world through science
and technology. It's a pattern so deeply rooted in the Judeo-Christian
tradition, so fundamental to the entire historical orientation of our
religion and culture, that mere tampering with the book of Revelation
won't make it go away.

TERENCE: How do we direct history toward a nonlethal yet satisfying
conclusion? Perhaps history isn't simply a lethal neurosis. Perhaps it's
an actual anticipation of what has been made inevitable by all this
technology.

RALPH: You are suggesting that we just get used to the apocalypse
happening.

RUPERT: We've all got used to the fact it could happen at any time.
Terence, your message recalls the saying of Jesus that the kingdom of
heaven will come like a thief in the night.

TERENCE: "... like a thief in the night, and no man will know the
moment of my coming."

RALPH: Either there is an inevitable apocalypse on the horizon or one
might be created by a self-fulfilling mechanism of paranoid prophesy.

To stop it, we must defuse the time bomb of the Bible.

TERENCE: We should be allowed to let the apocalypse happen, rather

than make it happen, which is what we seem to be set on doing.

RALPH: The story of the secretary of the interior is a direct example. For
him, not only is it happening, but it's happening so soon that we may
as well kill off everything immediately for the fun of it.

TERENCE: "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is
loosed upon the world. . . . What rough beast . . . Slouches toward

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Bethlehem to be born?" This image from William Butler Yeats haunts
the twentieth century as strongly as it haunted the first and second
centuries a.d. If culture is a fantasy arising from the unconscious, then
we've certainly set ourselves up for the end. It's going to be very delicate
to ride this through, understand it, stop it, back out of it, and integrate it.

RALPH: Is this one of our major weaknesses from the evolutionary
point of view?

RUPERT: It's what has enabled us to understand and discover the
evolutionary point of view. The very notion of human progress is an
apocalyptic vision of history written large. This myth is not confined to
churches and synagogues. Our scientific worldview has grown up with-
in the Judeo-Christian matrix with its idea of a beginning, a middle,
and an end. The idea of human progress was widespread by the end of
the eighteenth century, and the idea of biological progress extended the
same idea to all life, giving us the theory of evolution. Since the 1960s,
the entire cosmos has been seen as evolutionary. I would say that the Big
Bang cosmology is an apocalyptic vision of history with an explosive
beginning implying an explosive or implosive end. Astronomy points to a
more local apocalypse as well. The theory is that, sooner or later, maybe
in five billion years, the sun, like any other star, will burn up its hydrogen
fuel, get much hotter, expand, and then puff off its outer atmosphere,
leaving a white dwarf core. This will be the end of all life in the solar
system. This scientific worldview is undoubtedly apocalyptic, but it
puts the end in the remote future.

TERENCE: Thus conveniently far away.

RUPERT: The mechanistic science of the nineteenth century also pre-
dicted the final heat death of the universe. This would be the ultimate
triumph of entropy or chaos over order.

RALPH: The apocalypse myth is an integral part of the historical concept
of the Israelites who invented it, and we believe we can't do anything
about it. The paranoia of our culture is manifest in the assumption that
the end is happening tomorrow.

TERENCE: This is more than paranoia. The Earth is on fire, haven't you

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heard? Who else has nuclear stockpiles? Who else has Agent Orange?
Who else has CFCs dissolving the ozone hole? We can interpret this as a
slow apocalypse that takes two hundred years or as a fast apocalypse that
takes fifteen minutes and can happen today or tomorrow. All these
possibilities are real.

RALPH: Your projection of apocalypse in the year 2012, I think, is
actually damaging our chances of having a future.

TERENCE: I think it's a way to manage ourselves through a narrow neck
in a state of high awareness. We can use the calendar as a club, saying
to our leaders, "Do you want to enter the third millennium armed like
barbarians? Or do you want to drape yourself in the mantle of peace and
be the saviors of the world, the unifiers of mankind?" Everyone should
thoroughly examine the premises of their society as we approach the
third millennium. For example, the approaching millennium is putting
tremendous pressure on governments to get rid of nuclear stockpiles by
the year 2000.

By the year 2012, the world population will be approaching
ten billion people. Propagated at the present rate of fade, there will be
no ozone layer. The impact of that single parameter is totally unknown.
Then there are carbon dioxide emissions, acid rain, and nuclear pro-
liferation and propaganda running rampant. Meanwhile, pharmacol-
ogy, brainwashing, surgical reconstruction, and high-tech undercover
technologies of all sorts are making new leaps toward their own
twisted perfection. Under these conditions of cultural compression,
forms of novelty will erupt that are totally unpredictable in the present
context. Everything is knitting together. Our boundaries are dissolving
into a kind of techno-biological-informational soup. The intention- ■
ality behind all this is in the hands of no one but the Gaian will.

What is happening is like the metamorphosis that goes on inside
a chrysalis. This planet is having its forests liquified, its oceans boiled, its
populations moved, and its genes are streaming in all directions with
exotic toxins mixed in. We're in a timestorm whose diameter is impos-
sible to estimate. The barometric pressure is dropping faster than
we've ever seen it drop. There's an eerie stillness, and the light in the
sky looks very strange, but nothing definite has happened yet.

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RUPERT: A nuclear holocaust in which Christendom destroyed itself
would be a self-fulfilling apocalypse. The environmental threat is much
more global. As we shift the focus of our attention from the dangers of
nuclear war and turn to the global problem, it is apparent that the
Omega Point you are trying to describe, Terence, involves some kind of
collective transition in human consciousness. This might be achieved
without mass death through something you have vividly portrayed as a
kind of collective hallucinogenic experience.

TERENCE: Every human life becomes ultimately an approach to this
question of final time. If we don't live in the age of the world's end, that
doesn't mean we don't get to deal with the question of final time.
We all die. It's just that, in this age, the death of the individual and the
death of the species are somehow both possible to contemplate.

RALPH: And the death of all other species.

TERENCE: Many traditions teach that life is organization for the
purpose of creating a kind of after-death vehicle in a higher dimension
that will survive the transition. Building such a vehicle is seen as the true
purpose of life. This is the transition to light that so many traditions
have anticipated.

RUPERT: What people believe happens to them after death makes a
difference in the way they face death. Many people who have had a near-
death experience say they no longer fear death because they know there is
something beyond it. It is possible that vast numbers of people going
through the barrier of death at the same time may be creating a kind of
group mind of a kind never before realized.

Why the apocalypse is such a strong attractor is an interesting
question. The attractor beyond all the doom may be another state of
being that is extraordinarily blissful compared with anything we know
here, as well as more perfect. This is the fantasy of the recovery of Eden,
the Promised Land. There's something quite magical and infinitely
attractive about this idea that has motivated the entire historical process.

RALPH: It is the Rapture. This is the antidote that's more or less built
into the apocalyptic vision in Saint John.

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RUPERT: Let me add one more ingredient to this particular line of
thought. I recently took part in a discussion with Brian Swimme, who
was exploring the idea that the universe, like a developing organism, has
phases at which particular kinds of things happen. In an evolutionary
cosmos, there is a time when atoms first come into being. Then there is
a time when galaxies form. Then there is a time when the stars are old
enough to explode into supernovas, releasing the Stardust out of which
planets are made. Like a developing embryo, cosmic development has
particular phases that are roughly synchronous throughout the universe.
Therefore, if there is life on other planets, its evolutionary stage might
not be very different from ours.

I had also been thinking about parallel evolution on other Earth-
like planets and the possible effects it would have on our own evolution
through morphic resonance. I asked Brian for a rough estimate of how
close the development of such other Earthlike planets might be to OUT
own. He said perhaps within 50,000 to 500,000 years. If there If indeed
morphic resonance between similar planets, then when a now form
appears on Earth it's more likely to appear on other planets. If any
planets got far in the lead, morphic resonance would tend to make the
others catch up. With cosmic synchronization through morphic res-
onance, there is the sense of a possible cosmic apocalypse.

RALPH: Death on a cosmic scale.

RUPERT: Or the total transformation of the soul of the world.

RALPH: Well, I hope we can transform the apocalypse myth and make it

suitable for something other than destruction.

RUPERT: In the green psychedelic churches of the Amazon, there is an
Incan version of the apocalypse myth in which a dragon in the last days
comes and eats up the forest, burning and destroying everything.

In the last days, the struggle between the serpent and the forces
of life grows ever more intense. People are forced to take sides. It is no
longer possible to sit on the fence because the fence itself is crumbling.

There will be an intense polarization as the new millennium
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paring for the final battle. Through faith in victory over the dragon,
victory will be achieved.

A dragon, incidentally, is prophesied at the very beginning of
Anglo-Saxon liberal political theory. In Hobbes' model, individuals are
like atoms in the body of Leviathan. The dragon that is destroying
the Amazon forest is the great Leviathan of modern society. The
struggle is going on now; the outcome is uncertain.

Rubbing out the apocalyptic model, getting rid of it, suppressing
it, or psychically engineering it out of our psyche is perhaps no longer
possible. The dragon of destruction, Leviathan, is itself motivated by a
millenarian faith: the dream of conquering nature and subduing its
destructive powers. Whereas for the heroes of scientific progress the
dragon was nature, for modern greens the dragon is the human system;
this Leviathan is devouring the forests, burning things up, and polluting
the world.

We're in the morphic field of the millenarian process. Only another
millenarian scenario can undo the earlier one that has proved so
destructive.

RALPH: From chaos we came and unto chaos we shall return.
TERENCE: The middle name of chaos is opportunity.

GLOSSARY

ALCHEMY: An ancient science, closely related to astrology, developed from the
interaction of Chaldean and Aristotelian theories of matter and from which
chemistry evolved in British and Continental scientific societies following the
Renaissance. Alchemists, who belonged to the Hermetic tradition, sought to
transmute base matter or spirit into noble through magical and chemical

manipulations. (Cf. Hermetic tradition.)

ANIMISM: The view that nature is alive rather than inanimate.

ANTIPARTICLE: A subatomic particle that has the same mass as another parti-
cle, but an equal and opposite value of some other property. For example, the
antiparticle of a negatively charged electron is a positively charged positron.

APOCALYPSE: The Judeo-Christian and Islamic belief in the entry of God into
history and the subsequent end of the world.

ASTRAL PLANE: According to occult doctrines, a plane of existence beyond the
physical realm; the first sphere of existence after the death of the body, which
also can be visited in dreams and out-of-the-body journeys.

ATTRACTOR: In the mathematical theory of dynamical systems, an irreducible
invariant set that attracts the trajectories of all nearby points.

BIFURCATION THEORY: A branch of chaos theory dealing with the changes in
the configuration of attractors caused by changes in the rules defining the
dynamical system.

CHAOSCOPY: A computer-based technique for the observation of the hidden form
within chaotic data. Also known as attractor reconstruction.

CHAOS THEORY: The branch of mathematics dealing with dynamical systems.
Also known as dynamical systems theory.

CHAOTIC ATTRACTOR: Any attractor that is more complicated than a single
point or a cycle.

CHREODE: A canalized pathway of change within a morphic field.

CONCRESCENCE: From the metaphysics of Alfred North Whitehead, concres-
cence is the knitting together of disparate elements into a unified nexus.

COSMOLOGY: The study of the evolution, general structure, and nature of the
universe as a whole.

DAKINI: Literally, "sky dancer." A dynamic, energizing, and feminine principle in
Tibetan tantrism. She may manifest as a human being, as a peaceful or wrathful
goddess, or as the general play of energy in the phenomenal world.

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DARK MATTER: Also known as the "missing mass"; seems to make up from 90
to 99 percent of the matter in the universe and is of unknown nature.

DEISM: Belief in God on the basis of reason alone, usually confining the role of God
to creating the universe and establishing the laws of nature.

DETERMINISM: The doctrine that all events, including human actions, are
predetermined.

DIALECTIC: The conversational method of argument, involving question and
answer. In Hegelian and Marxist philosophy, a pattern of development by means
of contradiction and reconciliation, involving thesis, antithesis, and synthesis.

ECOSYSTEM: A community of organisms together with the environment in which
they live; for example, a tropical rain forest.

ELEMENTALS: Personified natural forces; faeries, sprites, and nixies are among the
elementals.

ENTELECHY: In the philosophy of Aristotle and in vitalist biology, the principle
of life, identified with the soul or psyche. Entelechy gives an organism its own
internal purposes and defines the end toward which it develops.

ENTROPY: A quantity defined in terms of thermodynamics. The entropy of a system
is the measure of its degree of disorder. According to the second law of thermo-
dynamics, the entropy of closed systems increases with time.

EPIGENESIS: The origin of new structures during embryonic development.

ESCHATOLOGY: A branch of theology dealing with the "four last things": death,
judgment, heaven, and hell.

EUCARYOTES: Living organisms consisting of cells with nuclei, such as fungi,
plants, and animals. (Cf. procaryotes.)

FASTNACHT: A medieval festival, recently reinstituted to relieve the boredom of
winter in Switzerland.

FIELD: A region of physical influence. In current physics, several kinds of fundamental
fields are recognized: the gravitational and electromagnetic fields and the mat-
ter fields of quantum physics. In biology, morphogenetic fields (q.v.) organize
the development and maintenance of bodily form. According to the hypothesis
of formative causation (q.v.), morphic fields organize the structure and behavior
of organisms at all levels of complexity and contain an inherent memory.

FORMATIVE CAUSATION: The hypothesis, first proposed by Rupert Sheldrake
in 1981, that self-organizing systems at all levels of complexity are organized by
morphic fields, which are themselves influenced and stabilized by morphic
resonance from all previous similar systems.

FRACTAL: Name introduced around 1967 by Benoit B. Mandelbrot for a geome-
tric object with a fractional dimension, such as the coastline of California near
Big Sur.

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GAIA: Mother Earth. The Gaia hypothesis, proposed by James Lovelock, regards
the Earth as a self-regulating, living organism.

GEODYNAMICS: Continental drift, earthquakes, volcanism, atmospheric and
oceanic currents, and other physical processes that shape the Earth.

GNOSTICISM: The belief in salvation or liberation through esoteric knowledge;
usually associated with a sharp distinct ion between the spiritual world, regarded
as good, and the material world, regarded as evil.

HERMENEUTICS: A philosophical tradition, evolving from Old Testament scholar-
ship into literary criticism, cultural history, and the philosophy of science, in
which the intellectual functions of perception, interpretation, and construction
of consensual reality are closed into a loop called the critical circle or
hermeneutical cycle.

HERMETIC TRADITION: One of the spiritual traditions of late antiquity in Alex-
andria, tracing its source to Hermes Trismegistus. It produced the Hermetica,
which include the Hermetic Corpus (containing about seventeen books, includ-
ing the Poimander), the Asclepius, and other writings. The Hermetic Corpus
presents alchemical, magical, astrological, and philosophical doctrines of libera-
tion. The Poimander (divine mind) speaks to Hermes, who receives a vision of
light, from which the logos and then the universe are created. The Asclepius ex-
plains the creation of everything from the One, including the hierarchy of angels.
The Hermetic tradition posited that the elemental world was infused by astral
influences—"as above, so below." It exerted great influence on the Neoplatonists
of the Florentine Renaissance such as Marsilio Ficino and Pico della Mirandola.
(Cf. alchemy, logos.)

HOLOGRAM: A photographic record of a three-dimensional object made with a
split beam of light from a laser. From a part of a hologram, an image of the whole
object can be reconstituted.

HUMANISM: In its literary sense, the intellectual movement that characterized the
culture of Renaissance Europe. In its usual modern sense, a rejection of all
religious beliefs and an insistence that we should be exclusively concerned with
human welfare in tins' material world, assumed to be the only one.

HYPOSTATIZATION: A concept symbolized in concrete form; the process of ascrib-
ing material existence to something.

LOGOS: A divine realm, basic to the Alexandrian tradition since the time of Philo
the Jew.

M-FIELD: An abbreviation for morphogenetic field or morphic field.

MECHANISTIC THEORY: Based on the metaphor of the machine. The doctrine
that all physical phenomena can be explained mechanically, without reference
to goals or purposive designs. (Cf. teleology.)

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MILLENNIUM: The year ending a thousand-year period, for example a.d. 2000.
In Christian theology, the millennium refers to a thousand-year period of peace
and prosperity expected to occur immediately before the end of the world.

MITOSIS: The usual process by which the nucleus of a living cell divides into two.

MORPHIC FIELD: A field within and around a self-organizing system that organizes
its characteristic structure and pattern of activity. According to the hypothesis
of formative causation, morphic fields contain an inherent memory transmitted
from previous similar systems by morphic resonance and tend to become increas-
ingly habitual. Morphic fields include morphogenetic, behavioral, social,
cultural, and mental fields. The greater the degree of similarity, the greater the
influence of morphic resonance. In general, systems most closely resemble
themselves in the past and are subject to self-resonance from their own past states.

MORPHIC RESONANCE: The influence of previous structures of activity on subse-
quent similar structures of activity organized by morphic fields. According to the
hypothesis of formative causation, morphic resonance involves the transmission
of formative influences through or across time and space without a decrease due
to distance or lapse of time.

MORPHOGENESIS: The coming into being of form.

MORPHOGENETIC FIELDS: Fields that play a causal role in morphogenesis. This
term, first proposed in the 1920s, is now widely used by developmental biologists.
According to the hypothesis of formative causation, these fields contain an in-
herent memory, transmitted from similar past organisms by the process of mor-
phic resonance.

MYCELIUM: The undifferentiated threadlike tissue that precedes the development
of a fruiting body in the life cycle of mushrooms.

NEOPAGAN TRADITION: A new wave of resurgence of pre-Christian religion and
belief.

NEOPLATONISM: A development of Plato's philosophy combining mystical, Orien-
tal, and Aristotelian influences, first systematized in Alexandria in the third cen-
tury a.d. by Plotinus. Like Platonic philosophy, it postulates a transcendent realm
of changeless archetypes or Forms; it also emphasizes that just as all living be-
ings are animated by immanent souls, so the entire cosmos is animated by the
world soul.

NOVELTY WAVE: Hypothetical alternative to probability theory developed by
Terence McKenna; the novelty wave is variable, which determines the rate and
times at which statistically improbable events may occur.

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OMEGA POINT: The state of complex unity toward which everything is develop-
ing, according to the philosophy of the evolutionary mystic Teilhard de Char-
din, who described it as "a distinct Centre radiating at the core of a system of
centres ... a supremely autonomous focus of union."

ONTOLOGY: The philosophical study of existence itself, differentiating between
"real existence" and "appearance." Also, the assumptions about existence underly-
ing any theory or system of ideas.

OVERSOUL: A synonym for the supraphysical realm called the world soul by Plato
in his dialogue, the Timaeus, resurrected under this name by the American
transcendentalists Emerson and Thoreau.

PARADIGM: An example or pattern. In the sense of the philosopher T.S. Kuhn, sci-
entific paradigms are general ways of seeing the world that are shared by members
of a scientific community, and they provide models of acceptable ways in which
problems can be solved. Scientific revolutions are associated with changes of
paradigm, or "paradigm shifts."

PARANORMAL PHENOMENA: Little-understood and often elusive phenomena
that lie outside the scope of current scientific orthodoxy.

PATRILINEAL: The form of society in which property belongs to men and descends
from father to son.

PHEROMONES: Organic chemicals produced to convey information among the
various members of a species; ants, for example, use pheromones to com-
municate.

PINEAL GLAND: A small organ of uncertain function found in the human brain
at the roof of the third ventricle. Descartes placed the "seat of the soul" in the
pineal.

PLEBISCITE: An expression of popular will; for example, by direct vote.

PRIMAL UNIFIED FIELD: Hypothetical state of the early universe, before the sym-
metry break that gave rise to the four elementary forces. (See superstring theory.)

PROCARYOTES: Cells or organisms lacking cell nuclei, such as bacteria and blue-
greejti algae. (Cf. eucaryotes.)

PSYCHEDELICS: A family of psychoactive indole compounds such as LSD,
psilocybin, and DMT that cause visionary hallucinations.

PULSAR: A compact star produced as the remnant of a stellar explosion. Pulsars spin
very rapidly, and, through magnetism and charged particles, produce very regular
bursts of radio noise.

QUANTUM THEORY: A departure from classical Newtonian mechanics, based
on the principle that certain physical quantities can assume only discrete values.
Quantum mechanics has several seemingly paradoxical features, including the
way that entities such as photons and electrons can be regarded as both waves
and particles.

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QUASAR: An object that appears to be an ordinary star but with very large red shifts.
A quasar is a quasistellar object.

REDUCTIONISM: The doctrine that complex systems can be explained in terms
of simpler ones; for example, living organisms in terms of inanimate physico-
chemical processes.

RESACRALIZATION: The recognition of the sacredness of that which has been
desecrated or treated as devoid of spiritual presence.

RESONANT WAVE PHENOMENON: The production of a wavelike pattern in
one elastic medium through weak coupling to a similar pattern in another nearby
medium by a process of resonance; for example, when one piano string is struck,
a sound is excited in nearby strings.

RUNNEL: Properly, a small brook or watercourse. In morphic fields, a well-worn
path or habit of thought.

SCIENTISM: A faith in natural science as the only valid source of authority.

SEED CRYSTALS: Crystals introduced into a saturated solution to cause crystalliza-
tion of the dissolved material.

SEROTONIN: One of several neurotransmitters necessary to ordinary brain function.

SHAMAN: Practitioner of an archaic style of healing and natural magic. Shamans
are masters of the archaic techniques of ecstasy.

SINGULARITY: In physics, a domain or situation in which the laws of physics either
do not apply or have been broken down; the center of a black hole is a singulari-
ty, for example.

SPACE/TIME CONTINUUM: The four-dimensional geometric model for natural
histories popularized by Albert Einstein in his theories of relativity.

SUPERCONDUCTIVITY: Zero-resistance conduction of electricity by some metals
and alloys at low temperatures.

SUPERSPACE: Hypothetical dimensions in which ordinary space and time are
embedded.

SUPERSTRING THEORY: First proposed in the 1980s, superstring theory models
particles not as points but as vibrating and rotating "strings." In one version there
are ten dimensions, nine of space and one of time. Superstring theory postulates
an original unified field at the birth of the cosmos that gave rise to the known
fields of physics as the universe expanded.

SYNCRETISM: The attempt to blend together seemingly inharmonious elements
from different systems of philosophy or religion.

TELEOLOGY: The study of ends or final causes; the explanation of phenomena by
reference to goals or purposes.

TEMPONAUT: A time traveler.

THEOSOPHY: An esoteric system of understanding the nature of the Divine and its
relation to the living cosmos. The Theosophical Society, founded in 1875, draws
together Hindu, Buddhist, Western and other wisdom traditions, and it has done
much to disseminate occult ideas in the Western world.

UROBORIC SYMBOL: Ancient image of a snake taking its tail in its mouth; sym-
bol of eternity and the completed alchemical process.

WORLD SOUL: Also known as the anima mundi, the animating principle of the
whole world.

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ABOUT THE AUTHORS

RALPH ABRAHAM

Ralph Abraham was born in Vermont in 1936 and earned a Ph.D. in
mathematics from the University of Michigan in 1960. He participated in
the creation of global analysis, a new branch of mathematics, while teaching
at the University of California at Berkeley, Columbia University, and
Princeton University. He has been at the University of California at Santa
Cruz since 1968, where he has been a leader in the new theories of nonlinear
dynamics, chaos, and bifurcation.

Abraham is the author of several mathematical texts, including the pic-
torial introduction to dynamics, Dynamics, the Geometry of Behavior. After
a three-year tour of Europe and India, he began a program of expanding
mathematics into its role in individual and social evolution, manifest today
in a series of articles and a book, Chaos, Gaia, Eros. He lives in a redwood
forest and frequently goes skiing and surfing with his two grown sons.

TERENCE McKENNA

Born in 1946, author and explorer Terence McKenna has spent the last
twenty-five years studying the ontological foundations of shamanism and
the ethnopharmacology of spiritual transformation. He graduated from the
University of California at Berkeley with a distributed major in ecology,
resource conservation, and shamanism. After graduation, he traveled ex-
tensively in the Asian and New World tropics, becoming specialized in the
shamanism and ethno-medicine of the Amazon Basin.

With his brother Dennis, McKenna is the author of The Invisible Land-
scape and Psilocybin: The Magic Mushroom Growers' Guide. A talking book
of his Amazon adventures, True Hallucinations, has also been produced. His
two most recent books are Food of the Gods and a book of essays, The Ar-
chaic Revival.

He is the father of two children, Finn and Klea, and currently lives in
California and Hawaii. He is a founder and director of Botanical Dimen-
sions, a tax-exempt, nonprofit research botanical garden in Hawaiii devoted

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to the collection and propagation of plants of ethnopharmacological interest.
In California, he divides his time between writing and lecturing.

RUPERT SHELDRAKE

Rupert Sheldrake was born in Newark-on-Trent, England, in 1942. He
studied natural sciences at Cambridge and philosophy at Harvard, where he
was a Frank Knox fellow. He obtained his Ph.D. in biochemistry from Cam-
bridge in 1967. In the same year, he became a fellow of Clare College, Cam-
bridge, where he was director of studies in biochemistry and cell biology until
1973. As a research fellow of the Royal Society, he carried out research at Cam-
bridge on the development of plants and the aging of cells. From 1974 to 1978,
he was principal plant physiologist at the International Crops Research In-
stitute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) in Hyderabad, India, where he
worked on the physiology of tropical legume crops. He continued to work
at ICRISAT as consultant physiologist until 1985.

Sheldrake is the author of A New Science of Life, The Presence of the Past,
and The Rebirth of Nature. He is married to Jill Puree, has two young sons,
and lives in London.