From cayoung01@earthlink.net Sun Aug 05 05:01:03 2001 To: Subject: [misc_survivalism_moderated] Fw: Our Evac Test weekend From: "Chris Young" Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 07:01:03 -0400 Cc: -------- Reminds me, I havn't tried my bug out bag. Chis ----- Original Message ----- From: Whi71 Newsgroups: misc.survivalism Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:09 PM Subject: Our Evac Test weekend Hello Everyone. We took the advice of several people from here and abroad to actually try out what we have in our Evac Packs. So this weekend is a little report of what we did, how we did it and what we will change in the future. We each keep a pack loaded with what we thought was 5 days of gear including a medium sized duffle bag of 'street clothes' but we wanted to make it as "real" as possible also. So we decided to hurry home from work Friday, toss the "evac" gear into the Explorer (the vehical we'd use) and make our way 20 miles to the camp ground for the weekend - this campground also has areas of no electricity so all the better. First off... on way home I was delayed by a raised bridge so I was already 20 minutes late. Once the packs and the two 20gallon rubbermaid totes were loaded - having not changed from our work attire (casual dress for me and her in a business style outfit including heels) we ran into second problem - Gasoline. The Explorer's tank was at 1/4 so we had to go fuel up using cash from our 'emergency stash' assuming the credit cards were not being accepted. Third problem... we ran into some good traffic problems having opted to listen to the new Clapton/King CD instead of the traffic reports on local station - another 30 minute delay of getting out of town. So Now we were in the thick of rush hour on a friday afternoon and a hour behind our optimal schedual. Once out of town we hit the campsite just after 6:30pm not many sites were left - seems like several boy scout groups decided to do a weekend jaunt in the woods - ARRRGGGHHH! By this time we were ready to just toss in the towel and go home but we pulled through it wanting to 'tough it out'. So we made camp by pulling out our gear and literally tossing it onto the ground. Tent was no problem to set up so once that was done her and I changed into our camping clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots. Luckily she had tennis shoes that were in the back seat and i was stuck wearing the flip flops we kept in one tote box as part of our permament camping gear. Ok.. this is starting to get long so i'll trim it down... next the fuel tab stove didnt work like we expected, had to buy some firewood for the 'romantic' fire at night, the 5 gallon of 'stored' water tasted horrible so we had to refil that from well water (YUCK) thank goodness for the pour thru Brita filter in the camping totebox..and saturday when the sun came out we strung up a spare blue tarp for shade... bad choice - it actually made things hotter in our opinion (and i personally got sick of the blue color it gave everything). The food we had packed (MRE's and freeze dried meals) was less than appealing - but still good enough to eat with enough seasoning from the tote box. What would we change? Add a small backpacking stove, a silver color tarp instead of the cheap blue plastic ones, pack the boots back into the bags once we got home, change out all the stored water, listen to the local AM station for updated traffic, add a couple travel bottles of rum to the kits for the relazing Coke and rums to calm the nerves. Overall it wasnt a bad experience - but it was a EXPERIENCE! Not unlike 90% of the people we have all ran into one time in the present or past who have not even tried to live out of what they have stored or 'claim' to have knowledge in. Thats all.. any statements or questions will be gladly accepted [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Small business owners... Tell us what you think! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/DROolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: misc_survivalism_moderated-unsubscribe@egroups.com Group webpage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From dustyut@lasal.net Sun Aug 05 20:46:10 2001 To: misc_survivalism_moderated@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] Fw: Our Evac Test weekend From: Dusty Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:46:10 -0600 -------- I built a backpack stove from scratch. Was cheap and easy. Carl Chris Young wrote: > > Reminds me, I havn't tried my bug out bag. > Chis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Whi71 > Newsgroups: misc.survivalism > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:09 PM > Subject: Our Evac Test weekend > > Hello Everyone. We took the advice of several people from here and > abroad to > actually try out what we have in our Evac Packs. So this weekend is a > little > report of what we did, how we did it and what we will change in the > future. > > We each keep a pack loaded with what we thought was 5 days of gear > including a > medium sized duffle bag of 'street clothes' but we wanted to make it > as "real" > as possible also. So we decided to hurry home from work Friday, toss > the > "evac" gear into the Explorer (the vehical we'd use) and make our way > 20 miles > to the camp ground for the weekend - this campground also has areas of > no > electricity so all the better. > First off... on way home I was delayed by a raised bridge so I was > already > 20 minutes late. Once the packs and the two 20gallon rubbermaid totes > were > loaded - having not changed from our work attire (casual dress for me > and her > in a business style outfit including heels) we ran into second problem > - > Gasoline. The Explorer's tank was at 1/4 so we had to go fuel up > using cash > from our 'emergency stash' assuming the credit cards were not being > accepted. > Third problem... we ran into some good traffic problems having > opted to > listen to the new Clapton/King CD instead of the traffic reports on > local > station - another 30 minute delay of getting out of town. So Now we > were in > the thick of rush hour on a friday afternoon and a hour behind our > optimal > schedual. > > Once out of town we hit the campsite just after 6:30pm not many > sites were > left - seems like several boy scout groups decided to do a weekend > jaunt in the > woods - ARRRGGGHHH! By this time we were ready to just toss in the > towel and > go home but we pulled through it wanting to 'tough it out'. So we > made camp by > pulling out our gear and literally tossing it onto the ground. Tent > was no > problem to set up so once that was done her and I changed into our > camping > clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots. Luckily she > had > tennis shoes that were in the back seat and i was stuck wearing the > flip flops > we kept in one tote box as part of our permament camping gear. > > Ok.. this is starting to get long so i'll trim it down... next the > fuel tab > stove didnt work like we expected, had to buy some firewood for the > 'romantic' > fire at night, the 5 gallon of 'stored' water tasted horrible so we > had to > refil that from well water (YUCK) thank goodness for the pour thru > Brita filter > in the camping totebox..and saturday when the sun came out we strung > up a spare > blue tarp for shade... bad choice - it actually made things hotter in > our > opinion (and i personally got sick of the blue color it gave > everything). The > food we had packed (MRE's and freeze dried meals) was less than > appealing - but > still good enough to eat with enough seasoning from the tote box. > > What would we change? Add a small backpacking stove, a silver color > tarp > instead of the cheap blue plastic ones, pack the boots back into the > bags once > we got home, change out all the stored water, listen to the local AM > station > for updated traffic, add a couple travel bottles of rum to the kits > for the > relazing Coke and rums to calm the nerves. > > Overall it wasnt a bad experience - but it was a EXPERIENCE! Not > unlike 90% of > the people we have all ran into one time in the present or past who > have not > even tried to live out of what they have stored or 'claim' to have > knowledge > in. > > Thats all.. any statements or questions will be gladly accepted > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > misc_survivalism_moderated-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > Group webpage: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Improve your spirituality and help improve the environment! http://www.goldprospectors.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Small business owners... Tell us what you think! http://us.click.yahoo.com/vO1FAB/txzCAA/ySSFAA/DROolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: misc_survivalism_moderated-unsubscribe@egroups.com Group webpage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From dustyut@lasal.net Sun Aug 05 20:46:10 2001 To: misc_survivalism_moderated@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [misc_survivalism_moderated] Fw: Our Evac Test weekend From: Dusty Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:46:10 -0600 -------- I built a backpack stove from scratch. Was cheap and easy. Carl Chris Young wrote: > > Reminds me, I havn't tried my bug out bag. > Chis > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Whi71 > Newsgroups: misc.survivalism > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:09 PM > Subject: Our Evac Test weekend > > Hello Everyone. We took the advice of several people from here and > abroad to > actually try out what we have in our Evac Packs. So this weekend is a > little > report of what we did, how we did it and what we will change in the > future. > > We each keep a pack loaded with what we thought was 5 days of gear > including a > medium sized duffle bag of 'street clothes' but we wanted to make it > as "real" > as possible also. So we decided to hurry home from work Friday, toss > the > "evac" gear into the Explorer (the vehical we'd use) and make our way > 20 miles > to the camp ground for the weekend - this campground also has areas of > no > electricity so all the better. > First off... on way home I was delayed by a raised bridge so I was > already > 20 minutes late. Once the packs and the two 20gallon rubbermaid totes > were > loaded - having not changed from our work attire (casual dress for me > and her > in a business style outfit including heels) we ran into second problem > - > Gasoline. The Explorer's tank was at 1/4 so we had to go fuel up > using cash > from our 'emergency stash' assuming the credit cards were not being > accepted. > Third problem... we ran into some good traffic problems having > opted to > listen to the new Clapton/King CD instead of the traffic reports on > local > station - another 30 minute delay of getting out of town. So Now we > were in > the thick of rush hour on a friday afternoon and a hour behind our > optimal > schedual. > > Once out of town we hit the campsite just after 6:30pm not many > sites were > left - seems like several boy scout groups decided to do a weekend > jaunt in the > woods - ARRRGGGHHH! By this time we were ready to just toss in the > towel and > go home but we pulled through it wanting to 'tough it out'. So we > made camp by > pulling out our gear and literally tossing it onto the ground. Tent > was no > problem to set up so once that was done her and I changed into our > camping > clothes to find out both of us forgot to pack our boots. Luckily she > had > tennis shoes that were in the back seat and i was stuck wearing the > flip flops > we kept in one tote box as part of our permament camping gear. > > Ok.. this is starting to get long so i'll trim it down... next the > fuel tab > stove didnt work like we expected, had to buy some firewood for the > 'romantic' > fire at night, the 5 gallon of 'stored' water tasted horrible so we > had to > refil that from well water (YUCK) thank goodness for the pour thru > Brita filter > in the camping totebox..and saturday when the sun came out we strung > up a spare > blue tarp for shade... bad choice - it actually made things hotter in > our > opinion (and i personally got sick of the blue color it gave > everything). The > food we had packed (MRE's and freeze dried meals) was less than > appealing - but > still good enough to eat with enough seasoning from the tote box. > > What would we change? Add a small backpacking stove, a silver color > tarp > instead of the cheap blue plastic ones, pack the boots back into the > bags once > we got home, change out all the stored water, listen to the local AM > station > for updated traffic, add a couple travel bottles of rum to the kits > for the > relazing Coke and rums to calm the nerves. > > Overall it wasnt a bad experience - but it was a EXPERIENCE! Not > unlike 90% of > the people we have all ran into one time in the present or past who > have not > even tried to live out of what they have stored or 'claim' to have > knowledge > in. > > Thats all.. any statements or questions will be gladly accepted > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > misc_survivalism_moderated-unsubscribe@egroups.com > > Group webpage: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/misc_survivalism_moderated > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- Improve your spirituality and help improve the environment! http://www.goldprospectors.org ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Small business owners... 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