1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,348 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2 00:00:18,557 --> 00:00:20,140 BILLY CARSON: Welcome to "Disclosure 3 00:00:20,140 --> 00:00:21,550 with Dr. Steven Greer." 4 00:00:21,550 --> 00:00:24,160 In this episode, we explore the levels of consciousness, 5 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,350 cosmology, and technology. 6 00:00:26,350 --> 00:00:27,340 Welcome, Dr. Greer. 7 00:00:27,340 --> 00:00:28,060 STEVEN GREER: Thank you. 8 00:00:28,060 --> 00:00:29,170 Glad to be with you again. 9 00:00:29,170 --> 00:00:29,740 BILLY: Thank you. 10 00:00:29,740 --> 00:00:31,990 You talk about the conscious holographic universe. 11 00:00:31,990 --> 00:00:33,370 Can you walk us through that? 12 00:00:33,370 --> 00:00:35,620 GREER: Yes, I think it's really important for people 13 00:00:35,620 --> 00:00:39,310 to understand that right now, you and I are awake, 14 00:00:39,310 --> 00:00:41,800 and we're conscious, and everyone listening. 15 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,520 That conscious mind, whereby you're awake, 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,090 is actually an infinite field of awareness. 17 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:51,310 We're only identifying it with ourselves, 18 00:00:51,310 --> 00:00:56,440 but in reality, it's always infinite and unbounded. 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,010 And the reason we end up not identifying 20 00:01:00,010 --> 00:01:03,010 with the infinite unbounded aspect of it 21 00:01:03,010 --> 00:01:04,599 is that we have been trained only 22 00:01:04,599 --> 00:01:08,750 to be focused on our own-- what's right in front of us. 23 00:01:08,750 --> 00:01:11,350 So when you go into meditation, you 24 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:15,550 can experience deeper, quiet consciousness, 25 00:01:15,550 --> 00:01:19,930 and then, in that state, you can see remote places. 26 00:01:19,930 --> 00:01:22,420 That's remote viewing or being a seer. 27 00:01:22,420 --> 00:01:26,230 You can see the future, and that's precognition. 28 00:01:26,230 --> 00:01:30,310 You can see other realms, the so-called worlds 29 00:01:30,310 --> 00:01:33,700 of light-- astral, celestial, other dimensions, 30 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:34,840 higher and lower. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:41,080 And you can perceive, also, the very structure of the cosmos, 32 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:46,810 where the first emanations from the field of consciousness 33 00:01:46,810 --> 00:01:49,220 are beginning to emerge. 34 00:01:49,220 --> 00:01:57,490 And those first emanations are the tonality of thought. 35 00:01:57,490 --> 00:02:00,610 It's the sound component of thought. 36 00:02:00,610 --> 00:02:02,650 Interestingly, that's what a mantra is-- 37 00:02:02,650 --> 00:02:03,520 chanting. 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,250 But if you look at it from a structure of the cosmos point 39 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:12,490 of view, it's that you have this impulse that emerges, 40 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:16,390 that is-- it's self-conscious and consciousness. 41 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:20,950 And that first emergence from the unbounded field 42 00:02:20,950 --> 00:02:23,590 of consciousness was the plane of the absolute, 43 00:02:23,590 --> 00:02:25,130 as the mystics call it. 44 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:29,470 There's this stimulation, this initial thought of-- 45 00:02:29,470 --> 00:02:32,440 from the great spirit, and it's called the primal thought. 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,130 And that primal thought and tonality, 47 00:02:36,130 --> 00:02:41,560 that then differentiates into all that exists in the cosmos, 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,820 in creation, not just the material, 3D, but all 49 00:02:45,820 --> 00:02:47,650 the worlds of light, the-- 50 00:02:47,650 --> 00:02:48,520 all that exists. 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,810 So that primal thought is constantly there. 52 00:02:52,810 --> 00:02:54,940 It's not like it came and went. 53 00:02:54,940 --> 00:02:57,700 It's a continuous presence. 54 00:02:57,700 --> 00:03:04,420 That, then, unfolds into the specific tonality thought 55 00:03:04,420 --> 00:03:07,750 essence that's conscious within all things. 56 00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:11,320 So this primal thought then goes like a fractal 57 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,760 into an infinite number of expressed things-- 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,730 stars, people, rocks. 59 00:03:18,730 --> 00:03:20,600 Everything has this within it. 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:26,140 So standing within every single point in space, time, or object 61 00:03:26,140 --> 00:03:29,530 is the unbounded consciousness, because all this 62 00:03:29,530 --> 00:03:32,830 is that, this emanation of tonality, 63 00:03:32,830 --> 00:03:35,770 primal thought, that then differentiates 64 00:03:35,770 --> 00:03:38,380 into that specific object. 65 00:03:38,380 --> 00:03:42,640 From there, you have the emanation of light, 66 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,930 so the first emanation of light from the primal thought 67 00:03:46,930 --> 00:03:48,940 has been called the most great light. 68 00:03:48,940 --> 00:03:52,060 But from that most great light, you then 69 00:03:52,060 --> 00:03:56,860 have the expression into the light within all things. 70 00:03:56,860 --> 00:04:00,730 So then, at that point that this emanation 71 00:04:00,730 --> 00:04:03,400 of the pure light form that's undifferentiated then 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,190 becomes the worlds of light, they're called. 73 00:04:06,190 --> 00:04:09,310 And this can be all the different dimensions-- 74 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:12,130 higher, lower, angelic, celestial, 75 00:04:12,130 --> 00:04:13,840 to the very highest level. 76 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,540 Now, the highest level of the expressed 77 00:04:16,540 --> 00:04:22,140 is very, very close to that most great light primary emanation. 78 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:25,840 So what happens is then from there, 79 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:29,280 you have a template that interfaces, 80 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:34,260 that creates time, space, matter, 3D. 81 00:04:34,260 --> 00:04:39,910 So I think for us to understand these extraterrestrial 82 00:04:39,910 --> 00:04:44,190 civilizations, we have to understand a new cosmology. 83 00:04:44,190 --> 00:04:46,030 Now, let's talk about the technologies. 84 00:04:46,030 --> 00:04:49,660 If you're going to go from one point in space and time 85 00:04:49,660 --> 00:04:51,700 to another beyond the speed of light, 86 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:54,220 you're traversing along, I call it, 87 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:58,600 the underbelly of the cosmos, but you have actually 88 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:04,430 transdimensionally shifted into the astral or near astral. 89 00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:07,700 And you know, people think this is so hard to understand, 90 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:08,780 but think about it. 91 00:05:08,780 --> 00:05:12,140 Most people have had a lucid flying dream, where 92 00:05:12,140 --> 00:05:14,750 they see a place or a future. 93 00:05:14,750 --> 00:05:16,140 But how does that happen? 94 00:05:16,140 --> 00:05:18,930 It's because the consciousness within us 95 00:05:18,930 --> 00:05:23,000 and our deeper, subtle bodies are not as fixed 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,200 in space and time and intellect as we normally associate, 97 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,310 and, therefore, you can see a distant place, a distant time, 98 00:05:31,310 --> 00:05:34,230 a future event, a past event. 99 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:38,210 So that is very much involved with extraterrestrial 100 00:05:38,210 --> 00:05:40,880 technologies have those abilities 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,180 that this cosmos that I'm talking about 102 00:05:44,180 --> 00:05:47,450 is actually utilized more fully-- 103 00:05:47,450 --> 00:05:50,390 let's say a fuller spectrum is used 104 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:53,240 by interstellar civilizations than we are now on Earth. 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,870 So that's really important. 106 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:57,500 So now, you get into this whole question 107 00:05:57,500 --> 00:06:01,970 of extraterrestrial spacecraft and civilizations and people. 108 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:04,490 Yes, they can appear full 3D, but they 109 00:06:04,490 --> 00:06:08,480 could be hovering outside your window in 5D. 110 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,490 What's interesting about this, I call 111 00:06:10,490 --> 00:06:15,590 this "the gap," this interface between 3D 112 00:06:15,590 --> 00:06:17,400 and these other dimensions. 113 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:23,330 And in that gap is a lot going on of where the material cosmos 114 00:06:23,330 --> 00:06:28,820 and what we call physical sciences can begin to interface 115 00:06:28,820 --> 00:06:35,450 with these more subtle, finer refinements, very 116 00:06:35,450 --> 00:06:41,030 fine versions of electromagnetism 117 00:06:41,030 --> 00:06:43,250 that are beyond the speed of light. 118 00:06:43,250 --> 00:06:49,880 And matter into the near interface, where the astral, 119 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,750 so-called, conscious light energy becomes form 120 00:06:54,750 --> 00:06:55,550 and matter-- 121 00:06:55,550 --> 00:06:58,460 that is very much the mastery that 122 00:06:58,460 --> 00:07:00,860 happens between the science of consciousness 123 00:07:00,860 --> 00:07:05,510 and all its expressions and 3D, physical sciences 124 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:07,520 like we think of today on Earth. 125 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:08,900 And that's our future. 126 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:11,420 I mean, that's why, I say the science of consciousness being 127 00:07:11,420 --> 00:07:14,270 integrated with physical understanding instead 128 00:07:14,270 --> 00:07:16,350 of an either/or is going to be an integrated-- 129 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:17,150 BILLY: Together. 130 00:07:17,150 --> 00:07:17,720 GREER: --system. 131 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,880 BILLY: Do you think that some of these ET civilizations 132 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,280 live in other dimensions, actually live there, and then 133 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:23,990 can just faceshift their frequency 134 00:07:23,990 --> 00:07:27,680 to walk into our dimension? 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,650 GREER: Well, all-- if they're from a physical planet 136 00:07:30,650 --> 00:07:34,940 and a physical spacecraft, they traverse these other dimensions 137 00:07:34,940 --> 00:07:37,520 and can reside in those dimensions 138 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,380 as long as they wish or not. 139 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:42,410 That's why it isn't just while during transport. 140 00:07:42,410 --> 00:07:44,270 They can be outside the building here, 141 00:07:44,270 --> 00:07:47,690 shifted beyond the speed of light in the near astral 142 00:07:47,690 --> 00:07:50,690 or in the gap or partially in this dimension 143 00:07:50,690 --> 00:07:52,080 or fully in the astral. 144 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,450 Now, as you go through more advanced civilizations, 145 00:07:56,450 --> 00:07:59,990 the technologies track the level of consciousness 146 00:07:59,990 --> 00:08:04,737 of the planet as they evolve and higher states of consciousness. 147 00:08:04,737 --> 00:08:06,320 BILLY: Dr. Greer, you've highlighted 148 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,800 the hierarchy of the states of consciousness for beings. 149 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,692 Can you tell us a little bit more about that? 150 00:08:11,692 --> 00:08:14,150 GREER: Sure, and I think it's important to understand it, 151 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:16,610 because this is the path all of us are on. 152 00:08:16,610 --> 00:08:20,000 Now, what I'm going to describe is, again, a linear-- 153 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,640 sounded like a linear process, when, in reality, 154 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,930 various states of consciousness begin to overlap and unfold, 155 00:08:26,930 --> 00:08:31,190 so certain aspects of it will be happening all the time. 156 00:08:31,190 --> 00:08:33,950 But the basic ones are everybody is aware of being awake, 157 00:08:33,950 --> 00:08:35,600 sleeping, dreaming. 158 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,580 And then there's another one. 159 00:08:37,580 --> 00:08:39,830 And the basic one is in meditation-- 160 00:08:39,830 --> 00:08:42,169 our society ignores this-- 161 00:08:42,169 --> 00:08:46,250 is being in that transcendent state of samadhi, where 162 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:47,900 you're just aware of awareness. 163 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:50,210 You're not aware of your thoughts, yourself. 164 00:08:50,210 --> 00:08:56,270 You're in this very peaceful, unboundedness of being awake. 165 00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:58,970 So it's the nothingness of being infinitely awake, 166 00:08:58,970 --> 00:09:02,090 not the nothingness of being asleep and dark. 167 00:09:02,090 --> 00:09:05,300 So that experience is something that you 168 00:09:05,300 --> 00:09:08,870 can have spontaneously or through the practice 169 00:09:08,870 --> 00:09:11,330 regularly of meditation and understanding that. 170 00:09:11,330 --> 00:09:13,700 By the way, all meditation techniques 171 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:17,990 should be designed to get you to that point 172 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:20,210 where the meditation technique stops. 173 00:09:20,210 --> 00:09:22,100 The technique is just getting you to a place 174 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:25,310 where you can let go and where the individuality 175 00:09:25,310 --> 00:09:28,160 of your individual soul can merge 176 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,930 with this unbounded field. 177 00:09:29,930 --> 00:09:32,840 And so from there, what's interesting, 178 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:37,100 as you go through the development of higher 179 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:39,860 states of consciousness, intentionally 180 00:09:39,860 --> 00:09:44,540 engaging in meditation, the study, and various techniques, 181 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:47,210 you will, at some point, experience 182 00:09:47,210 --> 00:09:49,580 cosmic consciousness, as it's been termed, 183 00:09:49,580 --> 00:09:55,520 which is when you're aware of that unbounded conscious field, 184 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,130 even while you're driving, walking, what have you. 185 00:09:58,130 --> 00:10:03,060 And this develops slowly for most people, 186 00:10:03,060 --> 00:10:05,750 but the key hallmark of it is you're 187 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:08,510 aware of that unbounded conscious state 188 00:10:08,510 --> 00:10:11,540 from having been immersed in it in meditation enough, 189 00:10:11,540 --> 00:10:15,050 even while you're awake and dreaming and sleeping. 190 00:10:15,050 --> 00:10:18,980 And so then you open up the whole richness of dream time, 191 00:10:18,980 --> 00:10:20,600 as Aboriginals in Australia call it, 192 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,240 where you have these experiences even in the dream state, 193 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,250 which, again, most people have that 194 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:28,550 even before they're established in cosmic consciousness. 195 00:10:28,550 --> 00:10:32,060 So you can have transitory cosmic consciousness 196 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:34,490 experiences that come and go, but it 197 00:10:34,490 --> 00:10:36,470 being established all the time is 198 00:10:36,470 --> 00:10:39,500 when you're fully in that state all the time. 199 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:40,340 BILLY: Right. 200 00:10:40,340 --> 00:10:43,040 GREER: As that is established and while it's 201 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,680 being established, you spontaneously 202 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:49,250 begin to develop more and more ability 203 00:10:49,250 --> 00:10:53,360 to have what's called celestial perception and the perception 204 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,900 literally, physically, and within your mind 205 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:59,840 of these resonant frequencies that 206 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,110 cross over into astral all the way to celestial 207 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:07,400 and, eventually, to the divine. 208 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,890 We call it Godhead or the God consciousness 209 00:11:09,890 --> 00:11:12,685 state of that being. 210 00:11:12,685 --> 00:11:14,060 Then there's another state-- it's 211 00:11:14,060 --> 00:11:16,160 a little more abstract-- where you actually 212 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,390 perceive everything as pure consciousness. 213 00:11:20,390 --> 00:11:23,090 And you usually need to have someone who's experienced 214 00:11:23,090 --> 00:11:25,640 that to sort of say, yeah, that's what that is, 215 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,620 because it's incredibly subtle. 216 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:30,950 But where you actually see everything as-- 217 00:11:30,950 --> 00:11:34,270 so it's unbounded consciousness within 218 00:11:34,270 --> 00:11:37,060 and unbounded consciousness out. 219 00:11:37,060 --> 00:11:38,478 And those become one. 220 00:11:38,478 --> 00:11:40,270 That's why it's called unity consciousness. 221 00:11:40,270 --> 00:11:43,930 There's this woven together-- your direct perception 222 00:11:43,930 --> 00:11:45,550 of the world around you is that it 223 00:11:45,550 --> 00:11:49,420 is at all consciousness, a very, very 224 00:11:49,420 --> 00:11:51,070 high state of consciousness. 225 00:11:51,070 --> 00:11:54,550 And then there's a state beyond that, Brahmin consciousness, 226 00:11:54,550 --> 00:11:55,870 as it's been termed. 227 00:11:55,870 --> 00:11:57,850 And this is more universal consciousness, 228 00:11:57,850 --> 00:12:00,520 where you, as an individual, experience the consciousness 229 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,800 of the entire creation. 230 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,890 And the reason they're important is that these have corollaries 231 00:12:05,890 --> 00:12:09,670 not only into CE-5 contact but the kinds of civilizations 232 00:12:09,670 --> 00:12:11,063 we interact with. 233 00:12:11,063 --> 00:12:13,480 BILLY: Dr. Greer, what are the technological corollaries 234 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,255 to these cities that you mentioned? 235 00:12:15,255 --> 00:12:16,630 GREER: Yeah, and this is really 236 00:12:16,630 --> 00:12:18,910 where the rubber meets the road in terms of CE-5 237 00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:21,250 contact and this subject. 238 00:12:21,250 --> 00:12:24,250 So everyone's heard about the CIA remote viewing 239 00:12:24,250 --> 00:12:26,140 projects and all of that. 240 00:12:26,140 --> 00:12:30,850 Those are the low tech ones, but that actually gets-- 241 00:12:30,850 --> 00:12:34,540 when you get a really developed civilization or some 242 00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:37,090 of the more developed classified projects, 243 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:39,610 those capabilities get-- 244 00:12:39,610 --> 00:12:44,140 I call it routinized, where it's made routine scientifically 245 00:12:44,140 --> 00:12:47,260 through technological systems that interface 246 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:49,450 with consciousness and thought. 247 00:12:49,450 --> 00:12:52,420 So this is where you get into the technology-assisted 248 00:12:52,420 --> 00:12:54,820 consciousness, where your consciousness can 249 00:12:54,820 --> 00:12:56,950 be assisted in remote viewing or seeing 250 00:12:56,950 --> 00:13:00,880 in the past or the future through a technological system. 251 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:06,820 And ETs have those devices, because in ET systems, 252 00:13:06,820 --> 00:13:10,780 involve the ability to drop out of space-time linearity 253 00:13:10,780 --> 00:13:15,370 and be able to see things past, now, or future. 254 00:13:15,370 --> 00:13:18,340 Caveat-- anything that's perceived in the future 255 00:13:18,340 --> 00:13:20,940 is only a probable future. 256 00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:24,180 The recent charlatans are always going to say on October 15, 257 00:13:24,180 --> 00:13:26,940 XYZ is going to happen is that by the time they 258 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:29,310 utter it and see it, it can change the timeline 259 00:13:29,310 --> 00:13:30,970 or whether it will happen or not. 260 00:13:30,970 --> 00:13:33,120 So when you're talking about future, 261 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 except for very big events that are sort of fixed, 262 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,090 you're talking about the probability. 263 00:13:39,090 --> 00:13:41,610 Now, the probability may be 99%. 264 00:13:41,610 --> 00:13:44,700 It's never 100% when you're talking off the right now 265 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:46,020 or what's already happened. 266 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:49,050 Everything that's happened in the past and happening now 267 00:13:49,050 --> 00:13:53,340 is engraven within the structure of these other dimensions 268 00:13:53,340 --> 00:13:56,370 and consciousness and is always going on. 269 00:13:56,370 --> 00:13:59,370 Now, so here's an example of that. 270 00:13:59,370 --> 00:14:02,400 One of my military advisors was at the White Oaks Naval 271 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,400 Facility in Maryland before it closed, 272 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,200 and this is back in the '70s. 273 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,070 And they had a device in naval intelligence, 274 00:14:11,070 --> 00:14:12,810 where it was called-- 275 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:14,370 they could extract from what they 276 00:14:14,370 --> 00:14:17,940 called the white noise of space time anything that had ever 277 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:19,800 happened in any volume of space. 278 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,690 So they could target, say, the space 279 00:14:21,690 --> 00:14:25,380 where this building is and see what's going on right now 280 00:14:25,380 --> 00:14:27,480 or what happened last night or what 281 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,120 happened 1,000 years ago in this space 282 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,330 or happened a million years ago with absolute accuracy. 283 00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:37,080 And that was in, I think, '73, '4, that era, and it 284 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,250 had been around a while. 285 00:14:38,250 --> 00:14:42,750 But those technologies, imagine what interstellar civilizations 286 00:14:42,750 --> 00:14:44,250 that have been going interstellar 287 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:46,710 for hundreds or thousands or millions of years-- 288 00:14:46,710 --> 00:14:49,690 they have generation 5,000 of this stuff, 289 00:14:49,690 --> 00:14:51,850 so just keep that in mind. 290 00:14:51,850 --> 00:14:54,900 So and then you get into things like, for example, levitation. 291 00:14:54,900 --> 00:14:57,480 I've talked about the fact that a city that 292 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,120 develops and can happen spontaneously 293 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,440 is the ability to levitate. 294 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,210 Well, how is that really happening? 295 00:15:03,210 --> 00:15:07,800 Well, when you're in a certain state of meditation, 296 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,790 and it's sort of also connected to the heart and joy, 297 00:15:11,790 --> 00:15:13,560 it creates a-- 298 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,830 and the heart has 30, 40,000 neurons, by the way, 299 00:15:16,830 --> 00:15:19,980 and is electromagnetic, as is the brain, as is 300 00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:24,990 the whole body, you can alter the angular momentum 301 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:30,960 and spin of all your molecules and atoms, so you lift up. 302 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,550 You click it a little further, you 303 00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:37,350 will dematerialize and disappear and appear somewhere else. 304 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:39,780 This can all be done by developing 305 00:15:39,780 --> 00:15:42,000 higher states of consciousness, and everyone's 306 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,760 read accounts of enlightened masters who could do this. 307 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,550 Now there's a corollary to that-- 308 00:15:47,550 --> 00:15:49,020 obviously, anti-gravity. 309 00:15:49,020 --> 00:15:53,100 Well, they're using an electromagnetic, very high 310 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:57,240 voltage system to create the same effect that a very high 311 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,730 consciousness state can affect. 312 00:15:59,730 --> 00:16:02,730 It's all both levitation of material objects. 313 00:16:02,730 --> 00:16:07,200 Similarly, when you get into these consciousness-assisted 314 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,820 technologies, you can actually have consciousness 315 00:16:11,820 --> 00:16:14,520 that is interfacing with your technologies 316 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,430 so that you teleport or materialize 317 00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:19,530 or lift things at a distance. 318 00:16:19,530 --> 00:16:21,240 That can be done technologically, 319 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,950 and ETs have that. 320 00:16:22,950 --> 00:16:26,400 And then you have things like full on teleportation. 321 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,875 Now, those experiments began in the '40s, '50s. 322 00:16:28,875 --> 00:16:32,520 One of the disclosure witnesses was at an Air Force base 323 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,420 in '53, where they were teleporting solid objects 324 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:38,460 from one part of the base to another, 325 00:16:38,460 --> 00:16:41,490 and it would go from one electronic system to another 326 00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:44,430 and go, boom, boom, and that was '53. 327 00:16:44,430 --> 00:16:47,970 So we know that that can be done technologically, 328 00:16:47,970 --> 00:16:51,600 but it can also be done, as I mentioned, through the cities, 329 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,190 the higher states of consciousness. 330 00:16:53,190 --> 00:16:54,780 You see, there's a pattern here. 331 00:16:54,780 --> 00:16:56,970 Almost everything you've heard about that 332 00:16:56,970 --> 00:16:59,760 is an innate ability and consciousness 333 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:06,450 can be made routine, routinized through scientific discovery 334 00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:09,060 and has been, frankly. 335 00:17:09,060 --> 00:17:12,569 And the same thing-- dematerialize, rematerialize. 336 00:17:12,569 --> 00:17:16,770 Now, in the ET systems and classified projects, 337 00:17:16,770 --> 00:17:20,579 these transdimensional interstellar craft 338 00:17:20,579 --> 00:17:25,230 have to be able to drop out of 3D materialization, go 339 00:17:25,230 --> 00:17:27,119 through these other dimensions-- they're 340 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,580 called "transdimensional--" and appear 341 00:17:29,580 --> 00:17:31,230 at another point in space-time. 342 00:17:31,230 --> 00:17:33,498 And in a sense, they can create their own portals. 343 00:17:33,498 --> 00:17:35,790 Everyone thinks you have to have a pre-existing portal. 344 00:17:35,790 --> 00:17:39,600 Actually, CE-5 groups-- we are creating our own portal right 345 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,620 above what we're doing. 346 00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:42,000 And the same thing with-- 347 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,400 you hear of masters who can materialize 348 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,790 a ruby or an object. 349 00:17:45,790 --> 00:17:46,590 BILLY: Right. 350 00:17:46,590 --> 00:17:49,140 GREER: Well, a little bit like Star Trek, 351 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:53,670 ET civilizations, their manufacturing of their craft 352 00:17:53,670 --> 00:17:58,950 is through these transdimensional energy fields, 353 00:17:58,950 --> 00:18:02,460 where the reason when you see an actual ET craft, there 354 00:18:02,460 --> 00:18:03,850 aren't any parts to it. 355 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:07,260 And in fact, the material in it is so pure 356 00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:08,880 that even in space, we haven't been 357 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,900 able to replicate the purity. 358 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:11,700 Why? 359 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:14,910 It's because it is materialized. 360 00:18:14,910 --> 00:18:20,490 It is brought in from let's call them elementals of this gap, 361 00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:22,920 from the near astral to the physical, 362 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:28,170 and it is then resonantly infraultrasonically 363 00:18:28,170 --> 00:18:30,660 and resonant fields brought into 3D. 364 00:18:30,660 --> 00:18:33,990 So that's an electronic system but a very refined one, 365 00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:36,180 and that's how they materialize things. 366 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:39,810 And then, you have other types of experiences-- bilocation, 367 00:18:39,810 --> 00:18:41,460 trilocation. 368 00:18:41,460 --> 00:18:46,690 It means that an ET craft can be in multiple places at once. 369 00:18:46,690 --> 00:18:48,760 Now, enlightened masters have been 370 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,000 able to bilocate and meet with more than one of their students 371 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,820 at the same time. 372 00:18:52,820 --> 00:18:53,820 You hear these accounts. 373 00:18:53,820 --> 00:18:56,480 Well, it's the same thing in consciousness, 374 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,380 but then made routine through electronic systems, 375 00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:01,840 because, in reality, like the spooky effect 376 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,110 Einstein talked about, you can have the same particle 377 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:06,760 in two places at once. 378 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,310 Well, you can do the same thing not just with a particle, 379 00:19:09,310 --> 00:19:10,930 but an entire spacecraft. 380 00:19:10,930 --> 00:19:13,390 And then you get into things like remote healing event. 381 00:19:13,390 --> 00:19:16,600 A wonderful doctor, Larry Dossey, 382 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,450 did the book, "Recovering the Soul," about remote prayer 383 00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:21,880 and healing events that they've been studied. 384 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,500 And humans can do that, and as you 385 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:25,210 go into higher states of consciousness 386 00:19:25,210 --> 00:19:28,840 or understand the power of consciousness and prayer, 387 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,460 you can affect outcomes and help people heal at a distance. 388 00:19:33,460 --> 00:19:35,620 Well, there are electronic corollaries 389 00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:38,680 to that that are using the consciousness field, 390 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,330 so interstellar civilizations have that and can 391 00:19:43,330 --> 00:19:45,820 do amazing healing with it. 392 00:19:45,820 --> 00:19:48,490 BILLY: You speak about the 10 levels of civilizations, 393 00:19:48,490 --> 00:19:49,870 and can you speak on that? 394 00:19:49,870 --> 00:19:53,100 And also, where are we going as a civilization? 395 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,460 GREER: Oh, the latter part of the question-- 396 00:19:56,460 --> 00:19:59,130 we're headed off a cliff if we don't change directions. 397 00:19:59,130 --> 00:20:02,190 As the Chinese proverb says, unless we change directions, 398 00:20:02,190 --> 00:20:04,630 we're likely to end up where we are going, 399 00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:06,840 and so we need a course correction. 400 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,570 The civilizations that are interstellar, 401 00:20:09,570 --> 00:20:12,800 in order to cross the threshold where we are, 402 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,530 where we have these fearsome weapon systems that could 403 00:20:16,530 --> 00:20:19,980 eliminate all life on Earth, and not just hydrogen and nuclear 404 00:20:19,980 --> 00:20:22,920 bombs, but others that are classified, so we're-- 405 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,730 human civilization's at a level zero. 406 00:20:25,730 --> 00:20:29,730 We're basically not yet a real civilization. 407 00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:31,330 We're trying to get there. 408 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:35,790 But eventually a civilization has to reach level 1, 409 00:20:35,790 --> 00:20:37,620 or they self-destruct. 410 00:20:37,620 --> 00:20:40,530 And the hallmark of a level 1 civilization 411 00:20:40,530 --> 00:20:45,120 is that it's a peaceful, global civilization where 412 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:48,630 all their technologies are life-supporting technologies. 413 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:51,690 They're not ones where you're blowing things up, digging 414 00:20:51,690 --> 00:20:54,360 things out of the ground, burning coal and oil 415 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:55,830 and chopping down things. 416 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:58,920 You're using these advanced technologies, 417 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,800 and you develop a world-- and this is where we're headed. 418 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,080 We need-- we should have been there 100 years ago, 419 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,460 but we're running out of time. 420 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:08,010 Now, we need to pick up the pace and do 421 00:21:08,010 --> 00:21:10,140 what I call a time snap, where we regain 422 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:13,900 where we should have been 100 years ago in 20 years, 15, 423 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:14,860 20 years. 424 00:21:14,860 --> 00:21:17,010 So that's a level 1 civilization, 425 00:21:17,010 --> 00:21:19,770 and you imagine, at that point, there's no pollution. 426 00:21:19,770 --> 00:21:21,360 There's no poverty. 427 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,700 The workweek probably drops 10 to 15 hours a week. 428 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:25,560 There's abundance. 429 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,840 It's a totally different economic system, 430 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,620 environmental system, and justice system, social system, 431 00:21:31,620 --> 00:21:32,582 where people-- 432 00:21:32,582 --> 00:21:34,290 there's just not the haves and have-nots, 433 00:21:34,290 --> 00:21:36,660 because there's total abundance due 434 00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:40,890 to these advanced technologies that create endless abundance. 435 00:21:40,890 --> 00:21:44,370 So at that point, there's the possibility 436 00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:47,700 of a permanent peace, a level 2. 437 00:21:47,700 --> 00:21:49,350 Now, the thing about permanent peace 438 00:21:49,350 --> 00:21:52,350 means that you're not just becoming peaceful and slipping 439 00:21:52,350 --> 00:21:56,160 back, and a permanent peace requires 440 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,900 a certain level of conscious, spiritual, 441 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,480 and social integration. 442 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,470 And this is where you develop transdimensional technologies 443 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:07,180 that are only being used for peaceful purposes 444 00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:12,360 that we've talked about before-- travel, going from point A to B 445 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:14,472 with anti-grav. 446 00:22:14,472 --> 00:22:16,590 Here's a beautiful part of that. 447 00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:19,050 Once people are freed from the shackles 448 00:22:19,050 --> 00:22:22,380 of the macroeconomic system we're in, 449 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:25,080 which, actually, is sort of like an extension of slavery 450 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,560 industrially, you have the ability 451 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,710 to have people really pursue higher states of consciousness. 452 00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:33,510 Why? 453 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:34,440 Because they're freed up. 454 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,273 They're not working. 455 00:22:35,273 --> 00:22:37,780 You know, both parents aren't working 40, 50, 456 00:22:37,780 --> 00:22:40,410 60 hours a week, so there's the ability 457 00:22:40,410 --> 00:22:42,840 to engage in creative endeavors, pursue 458 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,780 higher states of consciousness, and really develop 459 00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:47,190 your spirituality. 460 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:49,950 It becomes practical to do. 461 00:22:49,950 --> 00:22:52,380 So-- and then, that will allow you 462 00:22:52,380 --> 00:22:56,370 to evolve and be ready for clearance for takeoff 463 00:22:56,370 --> 00:22:58,260 to become an interstellar civilization. 464 00:22:58,260 --> 00:23:00,930 That's a level 3 civilization. 465 00:23:00,930 --> 00:23:03,540 You are an interstellar civilization, 466 00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:05,370 because you've been in stable. 467 00:23:05,370 --> 00:23:06,480 You're peaceful. 468 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,990 You're not engaging in weapon systems in space. 469 00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:12,450 There's widespread establishment of the science 470 00:23:12,450 --> 00:23:13,680 of consciousness. 471 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:19,380 And the integration between your world and other worlds 472 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:22,140 begins to happen overtly, openly. 473 00:23:22,140 --> 00:23:26,640 And my sense is that probably in the next 1,000 years, 474 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,330 Earth will be fully integrated into these other interstellar 475 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:34,110 civilizations that are at that level, a 3 or above. 476 00:23:34,110 --> 00:23:36,720 And then a level 4 civilization-- 477 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,330 this gets into where you're really 478 00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:41,520 developing higher states of consciousness, 479 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,570 because at a level 4, you have at least 1% 480 00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:49,770 of the population in cosmic consciousness, very 481 00:23:49,770 --> 00:23:52,710 high enlightened state-- not everybody, but at least 1%. 482 00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:55,410 And that creates an effect on the entire population 483 00:23:55,410 --> 00:24:00,990 again through this 1% effect that is non-local. 484 00:24:00,990 --> 00:24:03,240 And these are the senior ambassadors 485 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,960 that we've had encounters and meetings with that 486 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,840 are in an enlightened state of cosmic consciousness-- 487 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,500 like I mentioned, kindness, Bijou, the healer. 488 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:16,500 They're all in those very high states of consciousness. 489 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:21,060 And contact with other advanced civilizations 490 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:22,860 is their primary purpose. 491 00:24:22,860 --> 00:24:26,310 They are literally ambassadors to the universe. 492 00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:30,240 It's the CE-5 project, I have called-- 493 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,580 we're ambassadors to the universe. 494 00:24:32,580 --> 00:24:37,290 And they also provide guidance to emerging civilization 495 00:24:37,290 --> 00:24:40,080 and kind of oversee and be sure that they 496 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,980 don't go too far in a direction that could harm other planets. 497 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:47,790 And that's-- you see some of the civilizations that are here are 498 00:24:47,790 --> 00:24:51,180 at that level where they're trying to be sure we don't have 499 00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:55,650 too much damage that emerges from Earth to other places. 500 00:24:55,650 --> 00:25:00,380 And then level 5 civilization is getting very rarefied. 501 00:25:00,380 --> 00:25:04,790 Now, this is a civilization where everyone on the planet 502 00:25:04,790 --> 00:25:07,070 is in cosmic consciousness. 503 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:11,180 They're born into enlightenment, because we don't have time 504 00:25:11,180 --> 00:25:14,870 to go into the epigenetic effects of consciousness 505 00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:18,110 on the body and on the genes and how it's passed on 506 00:25:18,110 --> 00:25:19,950 from one generation to another. 507 00:25:19,950 --> 00:25:21,530 But I'll just give you a hint. 508 00:25:21,530 --> 00:25:23,878 When you are in a meditative state, 509 00:25:23,878 --> 00:25:25,670 but you're in a very high meditative state, 510 00:25:25,670 --> 00:25:30,650 it alters your genetic and neuroplasticity of your brain, 511 00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:32,880 but that's passed on in one generation. 512 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,420 So then you have the entire planet 513 00:25:35,420 --> 00:25:39,840 has become enlightened, truly, in cosmic consciousness. 514 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,550 And so this then leads to the widespread and accelerated 515 00:25:43,550 --> 00:25:46,850 experience of innate cities and the parallel 516 00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:49,880 of those being applied technologically 517 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,040 in almost everything that planet is doing. 518 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,370 So when you go back to what I shared a moment ago, 519 00:25:55,370 --> 00:25:59,090 that becomes just the way of life. 520 00:25:59,090 --> 00:26:01,320 And then a level 6 civilization-- 521 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,180 this is when many people experience some of those ET 522 00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:07,490 beings almost at a celestial level, 523 00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:12,050 because that's when at least 1% of that world 524 00:26:12,050 --> 00:26:15,120 are in a state of God consciousness permanently. 525 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,830 And that affects everything else and where their technologies 526 00:26:18,830 --> 00:26:21,860 almost reach a refinement of the celestial, 527 00:26:21,860 --> 00:26:24,860 but it's technological, and they're from a planet-- 528 00:26:24,860 --> 00:26:27,950 very, very-- they often get confused with an angel, 529 00:26:27,950 --> 00:26:30,200 but they all have a craft with them. 530 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,290 So this is where there's a lot of confusion-- 531 00:26:33,290 --> 00:26:36,500 I call it cosmological indigestion-- that happens, 532 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,470 because there is overlap of experiences 533 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:41,960 people have with beings from other dimensions 534 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,970 with these very, very highly developed civilizations 535 00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:48,020 that are out there. 536 00:26:48,020 --> 00:26:52,640 And the physical world that those planets takes literally 537 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,860 on the quality of a celestial realm, 538 00:26:54,860 --> 00:26:58,430 so it can be physical but also has this celestial quality. 539 00:26:58,430 --> 00:27:00,080 And their spacecraft do, too. 540 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,690 And then you have, from there, in this natural progression, 541 00:27:04,690 --> 00:27:08,750 at level 7, everyone on the planet from birth 542 00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:10,940 is in God consciousness. 543 00:27:10,940 --> 00:27:15,320 Number 7, that's where humans will be in about 300,000 544 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,030 to 500,000 years. 545 00:27:17,030 --> 00:27:20,150 By the end of this Yuga, this cycle, 546 00:27:20,150 --> 00:27:24,920 this entire planet will be inhabited by beings like that, 547 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,240 by us having our progeny 20,000 generations in the future. 548 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,490 It's really very beautiful. 549 00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:35,060 And at that point, that civilization really 550 00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:36,860 correlates the celestial realm. 551 00:27:36,860 --> 00:27:43,550 They can phase by intent from 3D to celestial, the world 552 00:27:43,550 --> 00:27:45,950 and the craft, all of it. 553 00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:49,490 And it's a very exalted state of civilization. 554 00:27:49,490 --> 00:27:52,980 And then at a level 8 civilization, 555 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:57,560 this is where you have all the technologies are interfacing 556 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,870 as a celestial level-- 557 00:27:59,870 --> 00:28:01,500 I mean everything on the planet-- 558 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:04,370 not just the advanced ambassadors and starships, 559 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:07,490 but the entire manifestation of their planet. 560 00:28:07,490 --> 00:28:10,700 And really, it's then by thought everything happens. 561 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:14,150 You materialize, do everything just exactly like you've 562 00:28:14,150 --> 00:28:16,610 heard in these higher celestial realms, 563 00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:18,650 but they're in a planetary system. 564 00:28:18,650 --> 00:28:20,960 And they can then choose, by the way, 565 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:26,240 to be in the universe we think of or in this higher 566 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:27,800 celestial dimension. 567 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,480 And then, now we're going to get into some extremely advanced 568 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,920 civilizations, the level 9, where you have about 1% 569 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,300 of that population that are in Brahmin consciousness, 570 00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:43,190 universal consciousness. 571 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:48,290 The ambassadors of and guardians of entire emerging worlds 572 00:28:48,290 --> 00:28:49,790 are from that level. 573 00:28:49,790 --> 00:28:52,370 I call them the primogenitures of life 574 00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:54,830 and the protectors of the development of life 575 00:28:54,830 --> 00:28:56,180 throughout the cosmos. 576 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:59,780 And then level 10, everyone in that civilization 577 00:28:59,780 --> 00:29:01,360 is in Brahmin consciousness. 578 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,610 BILLY: It's just incredible. 579 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:03,485 This is so beautiful. 580 00:29:03,485 --> 00:29:05,507 GREER: Yeah, it's beautiful where we're going. 581 00:29:05,507 --> 00:29:06,590 BILLY: Yeah, absolutely. 582 00:29:06,590 --> 00:29:07,700 I agree 1,000%. 583 00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:08,060 GREER: Yep. 584 00:29:08,060 --> 00:29:09,020 BILLY: Thank you, Dr. Greer. 585 00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:09,870 That was amazing. 586 00:29:09,870 --> 00:29:10,880 GREER: Thank you. 587 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,020 BILLY: I'm Billy Carson. 588 00:29:12,020 --> 00:29:13,550 Thank you for watching "Disclosure 589 00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:15,820 with Dr. Steven Greer."