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Practical alchemy archives - Antimony GlassBack to alchemy forum page . Back to Practical alchemy archive.From: Adrian Monk Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:02:53 GMT Peggy Brown wrote: >> Is anyone interested in blowing glass beakers and such >> inspired by pictures of those found in alchemical manuscripts? May I extend the question, and ask whether anyone has any interest in, or experience of, making antimony glass? It is possible, using a flux, to produce a vitreous form of antimony (as described by Valentine and others), but only - at least as far as I was able to establish - in very small quantities. I was for a long time interested in the statement to be found in one form or other throughout the literature, that the vessel (i.e. the athanor/furnace/fire) and the matter are one. Adrian Monk Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:07:41 -0500 From: Gilbert Arnold Adrian Monk wrote; "May I extend the question, and ask whether anyone has any interest in, or experience of, making antimony glass? It is possible, using a flux, to produce a vitreous form of antimony (as described by Valentine and others), but only - at least as far as I was able to establish - in very small quantities. " The making of Antimony glass is detailed in the Triumphant Chariot. It can be made 1) With or without flux 2) Out of calcined or sublimed material How have you proceded so far ? Adrian Monk also wrote; "I was for a long time interested in the statement to be found in one form or other throughout the literature, that the vessel (i.e. the athanor/furnace/fire) and the matter are one. " How have you proceded so far ? Blessings, Gilbert Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:56:40 +0100 From: Joel Tetard Adrian Monk wrote: > May I [...] ask whether anyone has any interest in, > or experience of, making antimony glass? Summary of Glaser's recipe for making the Antimony glass (1667): Take any amount you want of "Antimony" (Note "Antimony" is the ancient name of Stibnite and is not our modern metal Sb. Be aware of this important point ...) and crushe it. Put the powder in a strong and wide vessel and calcinate in a good fireplace. Take greatest cares of the toxic fumes. Shake the powder during all the calcination in order to avoid it agglomerates. If such a problem occures, cruche the Antimony in a mortar and calcinate it again. Calcinate the Antimony until the fumes stop and its color becames similar to ashes. Put the calcinated Antimony in a strong crucible. Make a violent fire in order to fuse the Antimony. Taking a sample of the matter with a rod of iron, you 'll see the good momemnt for stopping the fusion. Poor the content of the crucible in a wide plate of copper and you'll obtain a beautifull glass of Antimony. Glaser proposes a recipe for purifying this glass. You have to mixte 2 parts of glass with 3 1/2 parts of well purified salspetre. Poor the mixture in a hot crucible (spounfull by spuonfull). When all the mixture is liquid, stop the operation. Crushe the result in order to obtain a very subtle powder and mixte it with (slightly) hot water. Decante the water in order to obtain a coarse powder and put the remaining liquid in a vessel where a very subtle powder of Antimony glass will be obtained "Traduttore, traditore" ... ;-) Sorry for my English. Best regards to all. Joel °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° From "Traite de la Chymie", by Cristophle Glaser (1663) : Verre d'Antimoine. Prenez telle quantit� qu'il vous plaira d'Antimoine en poudre, calcinez le � feu lent dans une terrine plate non vernie, & propre � resister au feu, faites la calcination sous une chemin�e; en un lieu a�r�, & �vitez les exhalaisons sulphureuses de l'Antimoine, tr�s nuisibles surtout � la poitrine. Remuez continuellemrnt la poudre d'Antimoine durant sa calcination, pour empecher qu'elle ne se grumelle, & si cela arrive, pulv�risez la de nouveau dans un mortier, & la recalcinez, & continuez la calcination jusques � ce que l'Antimoine ne fume plus, & soit r�duit en poudre de couleur de cendre, & priv� de son soufre superficiel, lequel empecherait la vitrification, ou rendrait le verre opaque. Mettez alors cette chaux au feu de fusion dans un tr�s bon creusets, plac� sur un petit rondeau de terre : donnez le feu violent, & le tenez en cet etat, en sorte que la mati�re soit en continuelle fusion, & jusques � ce qu'elle devienne bien diaphane; ce que vous connaitrez en introduisant dans la mati�re le bout d'une petite verge de fer, � laquelle s'attachera quelques peu de la mati�re, que vous pouvez s�parer en frappant dessus avec un petit marteau, & lorsque la mati�re sera bien transparente, vous la verserez dans une bassine plate de cuivre, & vous aurez un fort beau verre d'antimoine de couleur jaune, tirant sur le rouge, pr�par� sans addition d'aucune chose. [...] Correction du verre d'Antimoine. Pulverisez subtilement deux onces de verre d'Antimoine, pr�par� comme nous venons de le dire, & trois onces & demie de nitre bien affin�, & les m�lez ensemble, puis ayaez un pot de terre non verni, & propre � resister au feu, & le mettez dans un un fourneau entre les charbons ardents, & le faites rougir, & �tant rougi mettez-y dedans une pleine cueillere de la poudre, laquelle vous ferez rougir, en remettrez une cueiller�e, & ainsi continuerez peu � peu, cueiller�e � cueiller�e, tant que toute la poudre soit employ�e & rougie au feu. Tirez ensuite le pot du feu, & �tant refroidi, pulverisez subtilement la mati�re, & l'�dulcorez avec deux pintes d'eau ti�delete [JT: "l�g�rement" ti�de ...], laquelle vous verserez sur la poudre en la remuant promptement, & versant l'eau trouble dans un autre vaisseau, & laissant dans le fonds du premier vaisseau la poudre la plus grossi�re ; versez par inclination l'eau d�s que la poudre sera bien rassise, & faites s�cher la poudre, laquelle sera impalpable, & la gardez pour l'usage, comme un tr�s bon & tr�s commode vomitif pour toutes sortes d'ages." Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 16:16:40 -0500 From: Craig Kott Joel Tetard quoted Glaser's recipe for making the Antimony glass (1667): > Poor the content of the crucible in a wide plate of copper and you'll > obtain a beautifull glass of Antimony. Is this "glass" in the form of a irregular crystalline solid which is semi-transparent and can flow (e.g., common glass), or is it a polished metallic surface? Isn't "glass" also a term for "mirror?" The surface of the regulus of Sb was bright & reflective (hence its name); are we sure that this is not what's being referred to? Craig A. Kott From: Russ House Date: Mon, 23 Dec 1996 02:07:02 -0600 Craig Kott wrote, regarding Glaser's recipe for making the Antimony glass: "Is this "glass" in the form of a irregular crystalline solid which is semi-transparent and can flow (e.g., common glass), or is it a polished metallic surface? Isn't "glass" also a term for "mirror?" The surface of the regulus of Sb was bright & reflective (hence its name); are we sure that this is not what's being referred to?" This glass is not the reflective surface of the regulus, but is vitrified material. It can be cloudy, translucent, or quite transparent, can appear in various colors: red, orange, amber, yellow, pale green, emerald green, black, clear, and blue (at least). It is generally poured on a heated metal plate and allowed to cool (be careful not to get burned). Allowing it to flow into a thin mass helps with the laborious task of grinding it to dust (wear a respirator and gloves). I once made what I thought was black glass, but held up to a strong light, it was ruby red with a cast of violet. It can be made with or without fluxing agents (borax and other agents help the material to vitrify more readily). It would be better to work without contaminants if you have an oven or gas furnace that can reach the required temperatures. Work outside or with *excellent* ventilation as often 1/2 of the antimony will "fume away" as a toxic oxide dust. Temperatures are 1700 to 2100 for as much as 2-3 hours. Your experience may be different. It is said by the ancients to work on antimony when the sky is clear. As a quick experiment to see what this glass looks like, a mixture of borax and antimony oxide or antimony trisulfide (1:4) can be heated in a small crucible over a high temperature Bunsen or similar burner. Again, beware of the smoke, and getting burned by a hot crucible or a splash. The colors are different depending on heats, amount of time to mature, whether sulphur and other contaminants are present or not, and whether fluxing agents are used. You may accidentally get a regulus -- I was after regulus when I got the black glass! I recommend this as a good experiment if necessary precautions are taken. I do not think that making antimonial medicines following Valentine's Triumphal Chariot of Antimony and taking them or giving them to others is a good exper- iment, however. There are problems in rendering the end products non- toxic. This is not to say that there is not some possibility here, but rather to say that this is not something to be done lightly, and without thinking about the grave responsibility one has in participating in accidental poisoning. With regards, Russ House |